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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 28, 2006 6:02:25 GMT -5
Mmm, interesting! Todd's thrown his hat into the Indy jacket arena. Thoughts?
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Post by IndyBlues on Aug 28, 2006 6:31:01 GMT -5
I know this got a few negative comments on COW, but I actually think it has possibilities. I think the look is pretty good, and depending on the feel of the leather, could be a nice jacket. The price point is the only factor. If he was intro-ing these at $200, I would jump on it, just out of curiosity. We should see if we can get some more pics, like the side view, back view(gotta see the pleats, yoke, and side strap config), and the liner. Todd, if your out there, get us some more pics. 'Blues
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2006 8:45:43 GMT -5
Hey KT,
That is interesting. Good find but one picture makes it hard to tell if it is a worthwhile jacket. I'll have to go check his site for more info.
Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by Toldog07 on Aug 28, 2006 8:46:14 GMT -5
I think the collar looks more screen accurate than the wested collar.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 28, 2006 9:03:53 GMT -5
Hey KT, That is interesting. Good find but one picture makes it hard to tell if it is a worthwhile jacket. I'll have to go check his site for more info. Cheers, G-MANN Thanks, I don't find it. It was posted on COW, but it IS interesting but like you say a LOT more pics needed. A lot can happen between prototype and production.
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Aug 28, 2006 9:06:22 GMT -5
It LOOKS good... btu like you all said... lets see some more photo's.. if It does end up being made... and it is cheaper than all other offerings... I`d try it... Edit: yeeeah not for that price though...379 is rediculous
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Post by pitfallharry on Aug 28, 2006 9:19:55 GMT -5
Just got back from Todd's site and here's the "blurb" for the jacket.
Todd's Costumes is proud to announce my new Indy-style jacket! Patterned after the original Indiana Jones jacket from "Raiders of the Lost Ark." We started by looking at the various offerings that are available. We even examined a screen used jacket from "The Last Crusade". Then we went back to the original movie and took copious notes on every conceivable detail. I am convinced that this is the most accurate replica of the "Raiders" jacket available.
We scoured the planet for the best leather and found some incredible New Zealand lambskin. It is soft and drapey from the get-go, and does not require any "break-in." Even brand new, it feels like you've worn it forever. And it has a fantastic texture that looks just like the screen jacket without looking artificially "distressed".
These are brand new, and as a special kick-off we are offering a "pre-order" price! The first batch is due to be finished October 20, just in time for Halloween and the holidays. The first batch will sell out fast, so order now!
I noticed it comes in small, medium, large and extra large. So there isn't any custom sizing with it.
I need to see more pics of it too from all the angles. It looks good but I'm not sure about the texture of the leather though.
I like Todd. It's been a pleasure doing business with him over the past year or so. Some of my gear is his and I'm very happy with it.
The price isn't to bad. I think it comes in right now under the price of a Wested.
It might not end up being a bad alternative to the Wested and I have no doubt these jackets would probably get to you fairly quickly.
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Post by indianatone on Aug 28, 2006 10:49:12 GMT -5
This jacket doesn't look too bad, really. But it's still too close to Wested's price to be of any consideration. Not looking for an alternate to a Wested at the same price. I'd be looking for a better price over a Wested. I'm sure there's a market for these, but not for me at $379, or even the special "pre-order price" of $299. Thanks, but I'll stick with Wested.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 28, 2006 11:24:01 GMT -5
Tone I agree. One thing people seem to forget about the Wested is the price. It is unbelieveably cheap. It's only the recent high value of the pound that has brought the price up, relatively, in the US. When the pound drops again it'll seem ridiculously cheap. When you compare like for like and include postage and the fact that you don't pay sales tax on a Wested it is just outstanding value. It all goes to show that some of our US jacket vendors need to reduce their prices. I'd say to a max $270 more reasonably $240 after all they don't have the advantage of history on their side. www.x-rates.com/d/USD/GBP/graph120.htmlOnly 5 months ago we were at 1.75. which give a price INCLUDING postage of $288.
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Post by indianatone on Aug 28, 2006 11:29:28 GMT -5
KT, I have no counterpoints to the above. It goes back to the Ferrari or the Shmerrari comparision. One's the real deal, the other looks good and can be had for the same price. Tough choice.
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Post by Ragingblues on Aug 28, 2006 16:23:13 GMT -5
I agree that it is a beautiful looking jacket, and should wind up being very soft and drapey! I also think Todd provides some great gear for a great price... but in this case, the price would be too high for me to sample it.
Things may change with that, who knows? Sounds interesting though.
Ken
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Post by IndyBlues on Aug 28, 2006 18:26:12 GMT -5
I may end up being a guinea pig on this one. I like the look of the jacket, and I've owned at least one of every other Indy jacket offering. I DO like the wrinkly leather look of it. If we get some more pictures, and everything looks in order, I'm buying. 'Blues
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Post by kalkamel on Aug 28, 2006 22:45:13 GMT -5
Between getting a copy and the real McCoy when they're both selling at roughly the same price, I'd go for the real deal any time for each day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Post by pitfallharry on Aug 28, 2006 22:48:20 GMT -5
I just think it's nice that we might have a good alternative jacket here stateside that won't cost an ungodly amount of money.
Once these jackets start being purchased hopefully we will get some feedback from the owners on what they think of them.
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Post by indianadirk on Aug 29, 2006 1:03:31 GMT -5
Between getting a copy and the real McCoy when they're both selling at roughly the same price, I'd go for the real deal any time for each day of the week and twice on Sundays. yeah your absolutley right , he is competeting with the real deal at almost the same price thats really absurd because imo it doesnt look that good. If his price is lower then wested's he can reach a new -group the budget gear-heads.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 29, 2006 1:37:22 GMT -5
The only thing I can see that makes it different, apart from the leather, is the slightly flared points to the collar. Like a vintage shirt. I've never seen this on a Wested and it does seem more screen accurate. Westeds tend to curve inwards in a convex manner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2006 8:37:09 GMT -5
It seems like Todd might be trying to fit in between Wested and Flightsuits ( Pricewise ). Also being in the US, the people here that are impatient would not have to wait as long or pay extra customs fees. I am not saying this is a good thing...........just stating a possibility. However it looks like no customization will be done on his Jackets.
Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by pitfallharry on Aug 29, 2006 9:46:47 GMT -5
I knew there was another one but all I could think of were the US Wings jackets.......Flightsuits is the one that's $400 or more isn't it?
It's hard to say how much this is costing Todd out of his pocket to offer this type of thing. He may not have much of a choice to offer this jacket at that price in order to make any kind of a profit.
Todd isn't a big company like, Wested, US Wings or Flightsuits either. So that's something else I think people need to consider.
As far as the jacket itself goes. I wouldn't buy it regardless of the price until I learned more about it and actually had the chance to hear feedback from other customers that had purchased it. I'd also like to see more pics of the jacket from different angles.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 29, 2006 11:24:32 GMT -5
It's hard to say how much this is costing Todd out of his pocket to offer this type of thing. He may not have much of a choice to offer this jacket at that price in order to make any kind of a profit. Todd isn't a big company like, Wested, US Wings or Flightsuits either. So that's something else I think people need to consider. That's an interesting view, do people here think Wested is a big company? They are of course a very big name that casts a long shadow. But it's pretty much a Mom and Pop business. Well Peter and Pam . They have Gemma, Gerry, Bob? who cuts the leather, and maybe 3 machinists. I think they have a delivery driver too. That's it. I don't think Pam works for the company. I stumbled in on their Xmas drinks last year an there were maybe a dozen people there, that's including some family members. I suspect US Wings and G&B are bigger concerns, but I could be wrong!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2006 12:06:51 GMT -5
I always thought Wested was a smaller Company just from many of KT's great pics and previous information about them. I am Positive Gibson & Barnes /Flightsuits is bigger just from this link: www.flightsuits.com/contact.htmlI am going to guess that U.S. Wings is quite a large company compared to Wested too. Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by Nicht Storen on Aug 29, 2006 12:16:24 GMT -5
I didn't even know Todd was doing a jacket. Very intresting. His customer service and products have always been great and I don't see why this should be any different.
As someone who does not own an Indy jacket, this could be an option for me at some point. Though, I'd like to see more pictures of someone modeling this offering as well.
What does a Wested Raiders jacket go for at this point anyway? I understand that the more customized, the higher the cost. I just want to get a ballpark figure to compare cost against this jacket. Thanks.
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Post by pitfallharry on Aug 29, 2006 12:35:10 GMT -5
It's hard to say how much this is costing Todd out of his pocket to offer this type of thing. He may not have much of a choice to offer this jacket at that price in order to make any kind of a profit. Todd isn't a big company like, Wested, US Wings or Flightsuits either. So that's something else I think people need to consider. That's an interesting view, do people here think Wested is a big company? They are of course a very big name that cast's a long shadow. But it's pretty much a Mom and Pop business. Well Peter and Pam . They have Gemma, Gerry, Bob? who cuts the leather, and maybe 3 machinists. I think they have a delivery driver too. That's it. I don't think Pam works for the company. I stumbled in on their Xmas drinks last year an there were maybe a dozen people there, that's including some family members. I suspect US Wings and G&B are bigger concerns, but I could be wrong! Wested does a lot more than just provide "Indy Jackets". I've always gotten the impression from them that they have a broader customer base......including doing jackets for other films. Todd on the other hand seems to just strictly supply costume pieces from various film and TV characters. So I would consider him in more of a niche type of market with a narrower customer base. This is why I view Wested as a "bigger" company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2006 21:39:11 GMT -5
Hey Indyblues, If you do get Todd's Jacket I sure hope you will post some pics. I would really like to see it better and on a person. Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2006 9:34:25 GMT -5
Here is a pic of the back Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by Ragingblues on Aug 30, 2006 9:41:13 GMT -5
Wow, the back looks very soft and drapey too! This should prove to be a very nice jacket, even if the price is an issue. Ken
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