Todd's Indy Jacket

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Even though I have enough Indy Jackets to last me this lifetime and possibly another one as well.............I have just placed an order with Todd.

I will give a review with pics as soon as it arrives in 2 months.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Kt. Templar]

Thank you! In the name of research!

Now, can you get a flightjackets one too?

(The evil person would get it take a bunch of shots and then send it back for a refund. Or does anyone live close and can do a walk in?)

[pitfallharry]

Wow, that does look very soft and loose. Kind of looks like it would break in very fast.

G-Mann, I look forward to seeing how yours looks once you get it.

This may turn out to be a very good alternative Indy jacket.

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Thanks KT but I will leave the flightjackets for you

I decided to try Todd's because it looks like other leather jackets that I have. They are very puffy leather and have a great look to them.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Kt. Templar]

gmann said:

Thanks KT but I will leave the flightjackets for you

I decided to try Todd's because it looks like other leather jackets that I have. They are very puffy leather and have a great look to them.

Cheers,
G-MANN

LOL too far I'm afraid, he shiping would be crippling. Perhaps an experimental Wested or two in the future.

The un-surface corrected nature of the leather is interesting, the colour seems a little grey, it does look like what we see on screen but that may just be due to the fading of the film over time, it's sort of like the difference between the colour of the original trilogy and the special edition.

It is interesting tho and the shape of the collar is nice.

[pitfallharry]

I wonder if these jackets are going to be a limited run? Does he intended on selling these all the time or until the leather for the jackets runs out?

I wish he'd offer them in the $250 to $275 price range.

[Kt. Templar]

I'm wracking my brain trying to remember the manufacturer who prepared a Indy jacket then didn't go into production. If we knew that we'd get an idea of the quality.

[pitfallharry]

For anyone interested in more info Todd is over at COW giving out more info on the jacket.

Apparently even this new pic of the back of the jacket is still the prototype. He should have new pics of the finished version soon.

Oh, and if any of you didn't know this already Todd's handle at COW is Puppetboy.

He's a really nice guy and I'm sure he'll answer any questions anyone has about it.

IF I didn't already own my Wested I would have considered saving up my money for this jacket.

[jweaver]

I'm a bit late here, but...This looks like a pretty nice jacket. It will sure be interesting to see a few reviews.

[Kt. Templar]

I had to satisfy myself about a couple of details so ended up getting a bunch of screenshots!

Collar, at least some of the time it is definately convex, the concaveness is an optical illusion, the Wested collar is correct.





Back seams: centre panel goes right to the arm seams.



well almost! The sleeve seam is miles away from the yoke here maybe 1 1/2 inches!



New collars ar right to have that "fly away" look!



And there's no doubt the lining is cotton with no leather zipper facing!



And boy is that leather smooth, really no pebbling to be seen.

[indianatone]

Yep. And if you look on the inside of that action pleat (Tarantula Pic) you can see what looks to be the shiny, unworked area of a brand new Wested. That's one thing I wouldn't do with another jacket. First thing people want to do is get rid of the shine when it's very visible in areas throughout the jacket - not just in the fold of the action pleat.

I've always said that the Wested Lambskin is its own "animal". The smoothness and the drape. The goat comes close nowadays but there's still a certain 'something' about the lambskin.

[pitfallharry]

So what are your thoughts on Todd's jacket after taking those screencaps, KT?

[Tycoonman]

gmann said:

I am going to guess that U.S. Wings is quite a large company compared to Wested too.

Tycoonman

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In pictures 3 and 4 from the top, It looks like HF is wearing pads under the jacket. Perhaps to keep the Tarantulas from being able to bite.

I always thought it was funny that his collar just happened to be turned up for that scene and then down then up again due to bad editing.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[indianatone]

Very funny, Tycoonman. ;D

Truthfully, Todd's jacket has a great design to it. I even think he left the cuffs the way they're supposed to be. Slightly flared without tapering inward too much. That jacket really looks good. Certainly seems to have more of a "from the movie" look to it right out of the box. In all fairness, he seems to be doing the best possible to hit the mark on the tidbitty features of the jacket. It'll be really interesting to see and hear your review, G-Mann!

[pitfallharry]

Boy, not to throw the topic off but look how dark in color Indy's shirt is in screen cap #2.

I always assumed Indy turned his collar up when entering the cave because of all the spider webs and bugs probably crawling around in there.

To be honest I've never gotten to deeply into the little bits about what's screen accurate and what's not when it came to the jacket. The main reason I got my Wested was 1) They made the movie jackets. 2)It had good reviews 3) It had a really good price.

So to me Todd's jacket looks just as good as the Wested. In fact it may even have some things going for it as far as "screen look" that the newer Wested's don't.

I reserve my final judgment on the product though until I hear what G-Mann or anyone else has to say once they get theirs.

[conceitedape]

When I saw the first (frontal) photo of Todd's jacket I thought it looked very Temple of Doom. The back photo confirms it!
Soooo ToD!! Either the length is longer at the bottom than standard, or he has his side straps attached well high!
Either way, niiiiiiice!! Looks like it would distress really well too being so soft!

[Kt. Templar]

pitfallharry said:

So what are your thoughts on Todd's jacket after taking those screencaps, KT?

Well after spending an evening jogging back and forward through Raiders I think Tod has got the high yoke, it really does need to be shorter and about an inch inch and a half above the seam on the sleeves.

The length of his jacket makes it too tall it should be squarer in proportion.

Whilst the "broken in" look of this leather is nice, the jacket in the film does not show the big pebbling that the back of his jacket does, it actually looks like cowhide from that shot.

He's got the collar the wrong shape it seems.

His pocket flaps are good though. I'm not sure why Wested doesn't do them that scalloped. I have a feeling it's cos they then look a bit too cowboy.

There is something strange about the Wested pleats that I can't put my finger on, they don't seem to be constructed like the ones in the film. maybe Todd can have a go. I thin the leather is drawn round from the armpit then folded and joined at the edge of the back panel, without a seam at the deepest part of the seam like it is on a modern Wested. At least that's what it looks like in that one cave shot with the spiders. Maybe just shallower pleats does the trick.

Todd has already said he won't extend the main back panel right to the vertical sleeve seam, which is not correct as far as I can see.

[pitfallharry]

Didn't he say the jacket in these recent pics isn't the final model but a prototype?

I agree with you about the larger "pebbling" in the leather. At the same time though regardless of screen accuracy I think it gives the jacket a really soft broken in look. Something I wish my Wested would have had right out of the box.

I bought the goatskin though because I knew it would be durable. It wasn't until I added the Fuller's Earth to the jacket that I finally got the look I desired. The problem now is that if I want to wear it in public with regular clothes I need to take that stuff off and then re-apply it later when I do gear pics.

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I have sent an Invitation to Todd to come and post info on the Jacket here. I am hoping he will give us some updates and more information on it.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[pitfallharry]

Well, that will be nice. I hope he has the time to join us over here as well.

I can't see why he wouldn't. This would be another great place to promote the jacket and his business at.

[Kt. Templar]

pitfallharry said:

Well, that will be nice. I hope he has the time to join us over here as well.

I can't see why he wouldn't. This would be another great place to promote the jacket and his business at.

There you go Todd, even more screenshots to ponder.

I was wondering why your pic looked so familiar then I found this on Wested's site:



See, even the LC jacket doesn't have too big a collar! The bottom of the pocjets are nice and rounded.

[todd]

Hello all! I'm spending way too much time answering questions and not getting my work done!

I appreciate all of your comments. This new jacket will by my "interpretation" of the indy jacket based on all the information available. However, they will be "off the rack" so once I nail down the screen-accurate details I'm sticking with them.

Back panel width - it looks like the right arm side on Ford's hero jacket aligned with the shoulder seam, but the left side did not. I've got to pick one and go with it, so I'm going with a small gap of .25" or so. Enough to look like they meet when viewed at a distance, but not actually overlapping the sleeve seam and causing a huge lump of six layers of leather at that spot. It's "left side screen accurate"!

The leather is a matter for debate. Although Peter says they were lambskin, he's also said that he doesn't have the same vendor anymore. Besides, leather varies from lot to lot. If you look at the close-ups of Ford's cuffs when he's unfolding the map in the opening, and when you look at the close-ups when he's hiding behind the barrels near the flying wing, you see lots of pebble and grain. Definitely NOT what you get from Wested or anyone else today. Of course, skins vary a lot, and the amount of pebble present in any one of these jackets will be the luck of the draw. They might have used the "pebbliest" ones for this sample? We'll see.

I just distressed a Wested for a customer, and I can attest to the fact that the leather they use now is NOT the same that you see on screen from 1980. That's all I'll say.

The length: check out the pics I posted over at COW on the length. Oddly, the Raiders body was almost the same length as the sleeves, and I posted some screen caps over there that don't leave much doubt about it.

And the side straps should align with the center of the pockets. Not much room for error on that spec.

Anyway, it's fun to discuss opinions, and everyone has theirs. That's why Peter has 8 zillion options for his jackets I guess. But I'm going to stay focused on my goal of screen accuracy and let Peter take care of those who want customizations. And, yes, his price is unbelievable (wholesale, basically). My jacket will hopefully be an alternative for those who don't want to go through the trouble of sorting out 100 options, and who want something delivered quickly. That probably won't describe most of you guys, but it will describe most of my other customers who don't belong to these boards.

Anyway, thanks for the invite! There won't be much more news for a few weeks. The next prototype embodying all of the small changes I've made will be ready in about 2 weeks. At that time I'll get more pictures into circulation showing more details. I'll try to stop in here from time to time!

Todd

[Connecticut Jones]

todd... now that your here.... any chance that your jackets will be offered in " long " sizes??

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Todd,

Thank you for taking up my invitation and joining us. I also want to thank you for posting the update info. I really like the look of your jacket, which should be no suprise since I ordered one. If at all possible would it be possible to get a small sample of the leather that will be used?

Best Wishes,
John