F21 "Cream" color shirt with Gear pics 02/12/2007

[pitfallharry]

Well, I just happened to be out on the web browsing some clothing store websites and I ran across this.

www.forever21.com/mens/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=FOREVER21&category%5Fname=m%5Fshirts&product%5Fid=2031606945&Page=1#


I'm not sure why the white is called "cream" unless it looks like the Old Navy shirt in person and I also don't know if the Khaki would be to dark. Everything else seems to look really good and they even say it's a "slim fit" so maybe there's none of that "poofing out" at the sides like I get with my other shirts. It's only $20 which is even cheaper than the Old Navy shirt was brand new. I may order one.

[winstonwolf359]

WOW, nice find!

I think the khaki looks too dark, but the cream one would probably dye up nicely.

Thanks for sharing!

[indianatone]

That is an awesome find! (I'm starting to remind myself of the school kid with braces and limited vocabulary, using "Awesome" for every description along with that braces lisp.)

"Oh my g- that is aweschem!"

Pitfall, these are great shirts!
Winston, that khaki does look a tinge dark but it's pretty darn close, actually.
The cut is the slim-fit, epaulettes on the seams.....
This may very well be an Oak Creek pants type of find, PH.

Preliminary guess, but anyone who wants a sense of whether or not they'll like the NH should probably buy one of these in terms of fit.

I really like that khaki color, too!

[Ragingblues]

That is a nice looking shirt, and I like the kahki color as well. The real question is about the thickness of the material, since the cut looks nice and trim. I think this could be a very nice alternative shirt!

Nice work,

Ken

[Kt. Templar]

Good find! One step closer from the Old Navy. Someone's been spying on us!

[indianatone]

Here's a closer look at the material of this shirt. Again, it seems right.

(the epaulettes don't run as far past the first pleat like the NH, but they are smaller and don't extend as far as the other Indy close enoughs, which is a plus, IMO.)

Material-wise, this looks pretty good at close range.

[pitfallharry]

Up close the material looks a little thicker than the Old Navy shirt in my opinion. There is still a lot up in the air about the shirt because we can't go somewhere and check it out in person. I still think it's the cheapest "close-enough" I've seen that has all of the things we look for in an Indy shirt.

As far as the color goes I think I'd buy the cream over the khaki just because the khaki might turn out to dark in person.

I took some pics the other day in my gear for PS pics and I wore my "pilot shirt" I bought last year. It was originally white and I used the Rit Dye Pearl Gray on it. Here's what that looks like with my IZOD pants and Wested.



Now I've washed that shirt repeatedly since I dyed it last year and the color has gone back to more of a lighter white color. So using this in comparison I don't think the cream color would look all that bad with the gear.

I just wish we knew how accurately those photos represented the shirt we'd actually get if we bought one.

[Ragingblues]

You just have to remember that the close-enough shirt you're wearing is way too light in comparison with the actual Indy shirt itself. So, you will want to see things a bit lighter, as that's what you are used to wearing.

We don't know what color these shirts will turn out to be in person, but the kahki is much closer to the real thing on a monitor, even if it is a bit too dark. It might be easier to dye a lighter shirt darker, but that also depends on what colors are in the base.

Ken

[pitfallharry]

Blues, is your NH shirt closer to that Khaki color shown on the website?

When I hear the color name "Cream" I think of an off white color. The shirt as it appears on the website just looks plain white to me. Maybe they're just trying to be fancy and call it "Cream" instead of just plain boring white.

Dying a shirt is very easy but I really don't want to go to the hassle unless I have to because I may end up getting more than one eventually just like I did with the Old Navy shirts.


With all of the Indy shirts I've always gravitated toward the lighter white colors anyway. I'm afraid without seeing the color in person that the Khaki would end up to dark and I don't want to hassle with trying to get it lighter using the dye.

Of course if someone orders the Khaki and takes shots of themselves wearing it and it turns out looking like the Old Navy color I'd buy it. For right now though I feel safer going with the "Cream" color.

When it comes to gear clothes I look first to see how affordable they are and then I look at availability. If their off in color a little or missing certain things that's ok with me. I'd rather be off a little and know I can pop back online or go back to the store and pick-up a new pair pretty cheap than wait months for something and spend a lot. With the hat, whip and coat there's no way around it but with the other stuff there is some room for movement. It's not like I'm trying to enter a costume contest and win cash. Heck, even if you are accurate down to the lace on your boots nine chances out of ten you still wouldn't win.

Before I found this shirt I was thinking about ordering a Wested or NH for X-Mas. I saw the other shirt someone posted at COW not to long ago and I was tempted to go for it but I think this shirt trumps that one in look and style and it's only a few bucks more. So I'll probably gather up my pennies and order one soon.

[Ragingblues]

The NH shirt is a darker color than anything I have seen you purchase or wear. It's the actual color that Indy wore, and once you see it in person, you fully understand the difference. The Old Navy shirt is not even close to the right color of Indy's, although it's a nice color to wear for other things.

My Magnoli shirt had been dyed to the exact color of the Old Navy, but once the NH arrived..... I re-dyed it to match that one. It is a major difference, and darker than you would expect.... but, once you see it in person and with your gear .

Ken

[pitfallharry]

Blues, have you ever taken shots of the NH shirt in different lighting?

It's to bad none of us live close enough to each other where we could just drive over to the others house and take a look at the stuff in person.

I'm probably going to order the shirt tonight. Now that I've read your last post I'm on the fence about which color. ;D

[pitfallharry]

Ha.....I just showed my wife the two colors and she thinks I should get the khaki since all of my other shirts are basic off-whites......so I think that's what I'll order. Hope it's not darker than the pic.

[Ragingblues]

The khaki color most likely is a shade too dark, but the question is:

Do you want to lighten it a shade through multiple washings, etc... or try dyeing a much too light one darker? I can see both as good options. Decisions..... Hopefully these pics will help.

Here are a few varying light conditions with Indy's actual shirt color.... the Noel Howard:



















The NH shirt is several shades darker than the Old Navy shirt, as can be seen in this photo from G-Mann's shirt comparison thread:



Magnoli/White - Noel Howard - Wested - Old Navy



If you compare the shirt color in my photos to screen caps of the shirt from the movies, you can easily see the match. Plus, when you put the shirt next to the correct color of pants.... the outfit comes together like never before. I know it looks much darker than the Old Navy shirt because it is.... and is supposed to be. It can go from looking very light in pure sunlight, which I don't have anything posted like that.... to the darker colors seen in any of Indy's indoor scenes.

So.... back to your choice between the light or the dark? I know we have the formula for making a really light shirt the right color, but how long does it stay that way? (1 package of Rit Taupe and 1/2 package of Rit Pearl Grey will get you very, very close starting with an off-white shirt).

indylounge.proboards105.com/index.cgi?board=generalgear&action=display&thread=1155590921

It's a gamble I guess, but I am very curious to see what color this new close-enough shirt is in person.

Ken

[indianatone]

Just to add to that in case some may still have doubts......

....here's a very rough example of the color. This is a cut and paste of that very shirt with the jacket and hat.
(Some stuff has been resized, guys, but I assure you I did not play with any color balance...that is the same shade from the site.) The shirt is much lighter when not against a pure white background, but it's not a white hue by any means in person. That's the deception of the NH shirt.

Even if slightly darker, it's why I say it could be the Oak Creek equivalent to the best deal on close enough gear to come in a loooong while. This one seems to pick up the gray undertones instead of the yellows or tans that most khaki shirts do.

Look how close that shirt looks. (Now, lets hope this color is an accurate representation on their site.)

[pitfallharry]

Wow, thanks guys.

Tone, that's my biggest concern. That the shirt pictured on the site isn't an accurate representation of the shirt I would receive in person.

It may turn out the the Khaki is lighter than the one pictured too. I guess we won't know until one of us buys one.

[Deleted]

Nice find Harry. If I did not already have too many Indy shirts I would be on this like white on rice. So who's going to be getting one of these first?

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Ragingblues]

Tone,

Fantastic job sticking the kahki version of this shirt in with your gear photo! I had to look for what you were talking about in your post. Only after scrolling for a photo did I realize what you had done.

John,

Well, if you're not buying one.... there goes our best chance of finding out what they are like in person! ;D Kidding...

Ken

[indianatone]

Thanks, RB. I guess it wasn't too clear what I'd done in that pic since it's pretty busy. Yes, that's how nice that shirt looks with the gear. Also, that is a cut and paste of the shirt indoors without direct sunlight against gear outside in full sunlight. The shirt has a very close color and could only get brighter in the sun.

Oh, I'll buy some of these shirts, and if they turn out to be spot on I'm not saying a word since I'd already mentioned how close these were in the third post to begin with.


Kidding. ;D

[pitfallharry]

Well, I'm going to order the Khaki color today. Looks like it will take 5 to 10 business days to get it with regular shipping.

If the shirt turns out like I'm hoping it does then I'll probably end up getting more and getting rid of some of my other shirts.

Keep your fingers crossed.

[GoneSolo]

I only have one Indy shirt, so I'm in.

[pitfallharry]

Well, I just got done ordering the shirt. I'm not to impressed with the Forever 21 website. I had a little bit of trouble ordering the shirt and checking out.

I ended up getting the Khaki color. I'm hoping it ends up lighter in person and not darker. I figured I own enough off white shirts I might as well take a chance and try the Khaki.

It will probably be a while before I get it but once I do I'll post pics.

[pitfallharry]

Just a wanted to mention that IF anyone else orders the shirt from the website to watch out for it freezing or coming up with the "web page not found" error. That happened to me two or three times while I was processing my order. I had to keep hitting the refresh button. When I was finished everything seemed to be ok and it only showed one order and it still does. My wife however just called me and it's showing that there are two charges pending on our account for that shirt.

So, her or I have to get a hold of the store and see what's going on.

Encase anyone is interested. The grand total of the shirt including regular shipping is $27.30.

[Ragingblues]

Sorry to hear about your order difficulties... that always sucks.

Hopefully, the kahki will be very close in color, but it's a nice looking shirt regardless. If it winds up being just a touch too dark, several washings might even take care of that. If not, Rit color remover for a couple of minutes only, should do the trick. Let's just hope for the best... then figure out the rest. (hey, a rhyme! ) ;D

Good luck with straightening out the order,

Ken

[pitfallharry]

Thanks Blues......I'm working on trying to straighten everything out as I write this. I just wanted other people to be careful if they order it online.

I can overlook the shirt color being a bit dark if it turns out to fit better than my other shirts. I'm hoping the "slim fit" means no extra material on the sides.

The thing that really stinks about all of this is we have this store here in town. It just hasn't opened yet. I'm not sure when it will be open either and that's why I decided to order it instead. There is also a chance the store here might not have had them either. It's hard to tell anymore.

If you look on the site it does say this shirt is a new item so that means it's going to be around for a little while at least.

[pitfallharry]

Just a tiny update. The shirt is scheduled to arrive at my house on 11/13. So it's not going to be that long before I know how this shirt looks in person.