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Post by Noah on Aug 15, 2010 14:27:47 GMT -5
"It's not the heat, it's the humidity" as they say. ;D You keep tempting me with that jacket. I just don't know if I can get myself to show up without the jacket. Yes, you could say that ;D Well, it is a tempting jacket. I'm tempted into getting on the list for one myself! Still deciding... I've been cleared to give some more info on the US Wings Raiders jacket. It will be made both in calfskin and striated lamb. Both are SA, but for toughness, calf would be the way to go. Remember, these are limited edition. I don't know if they will be spec. accurate, but they will be 100% Neil Cooper specs. Yes, these are designed by Neil Cooper himself. They will be making one jacket style per year. So next year will be TOD, the next LC, and then CS. I will be on the list for a TOD and maybe LC for sure! And here's something that Sgt. Hack mentioned to me, and I thought I would share it here: "I have heard that there is another site calling the US Wings Jackets 3rd world Jackets and I did find that strange because we are Union and I supply the US Military with their Flight Jackets and a false statement may do harm to our country in time of WAR and I would suggest speaking with an Attorney if you are that web site! Just thought I would pass on that information. Regards, Sgt. Hack"
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Post by MaX on Aug 15, 2010 14:40:49 GMT -5
Well why wouldn't you get yourself on that list. It does sound like a piece of art. And the way you're selling it I'd think you were on the top of the list. Do you have a time frame for the jacket? At that price it would definitely be interesting. Can't wait to see pictures! What is straited lamb? For authenticity I think it'd be cool to have it in the correct material.
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Post by Noah on Aug 15, 2010 14:55:15 GMT -5
If only I were even on that list You can see here how striated lamb looks. When you scroll down it's the first one you see: www.uswings.com/aviatn.aspFor when it's coming out, it will be released just before Halloween for COW members first. So perhaps later this fall to the general public. Don't worry about which is more SA, because both calf and lamb were used in the film.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 15, 2010 15:04:44 GMT -5
Really? They really used both? Steven
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Post by MaX on Aug 15, 2010 15:11:19 GMT -5
They used both? That's news to me too. But good to know.
But wait, why are there more Indy jackets in your link than when I click the Indy banner on the front page? And is that the new jacket at the top of the page you link to?
I tried joining COW yesterday, but the join function is closed at the moment...
Edit: Noah, you can't get bumped up the list? Are you really just a mortal as the rest of us? ;D
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Post by Noah on Aug 15, 2010 15:22:24 GMT -5
The top picture isn't the new Raiders. But when you scroll down the straited lamb pics are "USW Striated Lambskin Indy-Hero Jacket." That's how the striated lamb will look. Yeah, the jackets in Raiders were made with lamb and calf. But I'm not entirely sure anymore if the calf was seen on screen. It was totally new to me too, as well as many others. But Neil Cooper says that the jackets he made were of calfskin. Edit: No I can't get bumped up the list. That wouldn't be fair ;D
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Post by MaX on Aug 15, 2010 15:46:51 GMT -5
Yeah, that's tje jacket I meant. I haven't seen half of those because I landed on some other page when I clicked the banner.
I knew they used a stronger leather for stunt scenes such as being dragged under a truck, but I didn't think they used it any where else.
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Post by Noah on Aug 15, 2010 15:56:55 GMT -5
Me neither. I thought stonger leather was used on only jackets seen during stunts. From what I hear, the Bantu Wind jacket was a stunt jacket actually. But stunt jacket(s) were used during other scenes too, like that one. By the way max, I'll get that review of the Super Holder up sometime today, although you might be asleep by the time I do. But you can check tomorrow.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 15, 2010 17:43:52 GMT -5
Sounds like someone has been waving the flag at David to get him riled up.
He himself said that he was getting jackets made in China. Though China may object to being called Third World now.
Not all his current crop of new and new-old-new jackets are made in China, but at least one of them is.
Fit has always been an issue with Wings jackets. They tend to be long and oversized. Especially in the smaller labled sizes.
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Aug 16, 2010 11:04:48 GMT -5
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Post by MaX on Aug 16, 2010 14:15:15 GMT -5
I just got back from Kim's (from ABD) with my new Indy shirt. Happy camper over here! Man, Kim is dedicated to his craft, visiting him was such a great experience. His stuff is just spot on, I can't recommend him strongly enough!
Edit: I'm just about to order the pants from Magnoli, can anyone please confirm which options to choose? The latest I heard, which should be the most SA, is: - Adventure pants - Vintage brown - Zipper - Cavarly twill wool
Are there a couple of people who can please confirm this?
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 16, 2010 15:51:33 GMT -5
Well definitely not a zipper, the originals were button fly. The CT is quite an upcharge tho.
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Post by MaX on Aug 16, 2010 15:57:47 GMT -5
Button fly, noted. Yes, it's almost double the price... But if it's the most accurate, I'll have to go with it. I saw another one in a thread just below who bought dark khaki wool blend. They just seem too brown in his pictures, where the movie pants, for the most part, looks more grayish.
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Post by Noah on Aug 16, 2010 19:44:43 GMT -5
I don't know why joining is disabled right now. Sorry about that though. $295 is what it's said to be for now(edit: for COW). It is possible it could go up. I think that price is for everyone. I'm not sure if these are going to be made in China or not. But I don't think so.
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Post by Noah on Aug 16, 2010 19:46:59 GMT -5
Well definitely not a zipper, the originals were button fly. The CT is quite an upcharge tho. Yep button fly is SA. Cavalry twill is too, but like KT said, it's quite a bit more.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 16, 2010 22:45:43 GMT -5
Alright... I was just confused by what you guys were saying. To clear things up: The button fly comes at no extra charge. The CT you mention is the Cavalry Twill, if I'm not mistaken. And it is much more expensive than the Wool Blend and Cotton Twill. To me, the only difference it makes is very minor for accuracy and very major for price and care instructions. But, if it's accuracy you're going for, go ahead.
Steven
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Post by MaX on Aug 17, 2010 1:23:09 GMT -5
That's why I'm asking. It would be a shame to pay almost double the price if I can get something just as SA for less. Does anyone own a pair who can come with some insight? I've just written to Magnoli and asked. Hoping for a quick response.
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Post by MaX on Aug 18, 2010 1:24:41 GMT -5
I contacted Magnoli about the most correct color to use for Raiders, here's what they answered:
Our Cavalry Twill Wool was custom made based on an original swatch, so that is your best choice.
Kind regards, Magnoli
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Post by Noah on Aug 18, 2010 13:07:16 GMT -5
I contacted Magnoli about the most correct color to use for Raiders, here's what they answered: Our Cavalry Twill Wool was custom made based on an original swatch, so that is your best choice.
Kind regards, MagnoliSo that would be the best choice for Raiders, and the color it comes with.
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Post by MaX on Aug 18, 2010 13:09:16 GMT -5
Exactly! It's already ordered. Edit: All that's left now is the jacket...! Still no word from Gemma, but i've contacted Peter.
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Post by Noah on Aug 18, 2010 13:11:01 GMT -5
Nice! Post some pics once you get it!
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Post by MaX on Aug 18, 2010 13:30:06 GMT -5
You bet!
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Aug 19, 2010 8:45:39 GMT -5
U.S. Wings just released the US Wings-Neil Cooper 30th Anniversary Original Pattern Raiders-style Jacket. I have to say, I saw the $395 price coming from a mile away. They're offering it in 4 different hides, which is out of their normal style of listing their jackets: cowhide, calfskin, striated lambskin, and horsehide (and I'm going on the record to state that I have no idea what the difference between cowhide and calfskin would be). The pleated action back looks nice and detailed to me (though I can't speak for accuracy). They've also apparently kept it to one inside pocket, like most of their other jackets. Of course, it seems like U.S Wings just loves their nylon lining, and won't use anything except it. Isn't a cotton interior screen accurate for an original Raiders jacket? It doesn't look like it's made in the U.S., either.
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Post by MaX on Aug 19, 2010 10:51:27 GMT -5
Hmm, compared to the pictures in this analysis, at least two things I've been looking for are wrong. The pockets are way too pointy, and the back-piece doesn't extend all the way out to the sleeve seam. Luckily not everyone is as nit-picky as me. It generally does look good! But it looks like it'll be a Wested for me.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 19, 2010 10:58:15 GMT -5
Cotton Lining is a prop-accurate detail. But as for Screen Accuracy... See that little sliver of sheen between the zipper and the shirt? I think Nylon's fine for the Raven Bar jacket. EDIT: Tricked by the shadows. I don't have an eye for detail. Steven
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