An Expedition To Call My Own

[Ragingblues]

I'm sure there is a hint of the purple-ish tint in the dark brown color of the Expedition too. But, in comparison to the dark brown color of my Wested goat, it's not as noticeable. This is only being very picky and not something that stands out when by itself.

Ken

[COWBOY]

admin said:

I'm sure there is a hint of the purple-ish tint in the dark brown color of the Expedition too. But, in comparison to the dark brown color of my Wested goat, it's not as noticeable. This is only being very picky and not something that stands out when by itself.

Ken

I agree, it is not too noticeable, but you do notice it non the less. It is something that goes along with this hobby....Like being a Carpenter, you notice how things are built that no one else would care about!

[Deleted]

I've noticed the purple hue to my G&B in the direct sunlight too. Sometimes I even see a prismy, rainbowish look to it.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Ragingblues]

Here's a couple of pics of what the Expedition looks like now (3/1/08) in full sun:








This jacket hasn't (and won't be) artificially distressed, and has only been worn in the rain one time. I just thought people might like to see how these jackets age under normal wearing conditions.

This is still my favorite jacket from both the looks and wearability points of view.


Ken

[Rock Ford]

Mar 1, 2008 14:59:33 GMT -5 Ragingblues said:

Here's a couple of pics of what the Expedition looks like now (3/1/08) in full sun:








This jacket hasn't (and won't be) artificially distressed, and has only been worn in the rain one time. I just thought people might like to see how these jackets age under normal wearing conditions.

This is still my favorite jacket from both the looks and wearability points of view.


Ken

That looks awesome, I might have to get me one for xmas this year. I would like one in black.

[Deleted]

Ken,

The G&B is looking good. You're wearing shorts too. You lucky ..........

Cheers,
John

[Ragingblues]

Thanks guys! I mainly did this for the benefit of people considering which jacket to buy. John, it is plenty warm enough for shorts today (mid 70's), but I was actually wearing cargo pants when I snapped these.


Ken

[COWBOY]

Ken, boy does that look great! I really love the G&Bs looks. I threw mine in the washer last fall. I am not planning on artificial distressing either, but is sure helped getting the shine knocked down a bit. It just looked too new. BTW, what size is yours and waht is the length from shoulder seem to cuff? ( I think that I might have shrunk the sleeves on mine by 1/2" after the wash )

[pitfallharry]

I'm still waiting for the notice that mine has been sent out.

I can't wait to get it.......especially now after seeing Ken's again.


I wonder if that "purple-ish hue" you guys are noticing has something to do with the chrome-tanned part of the process the jacket hides go threw?

I've never noticed it in ANY of the pics I've seen.....So it must be something you notice in person. I would imagine once the leather breaks down some and the shine wears off that would vanish.

[COWBOY]

Mar 1, 2008 22:02:03 GMT -5 @pitfallharry said:

I'm still waiting for the notice that mine has been sent out.

I can't wait to get it.......especially now after seeing Ken's again.


I wonder if that "purple-ish hue" you guys are noticing has something to do with the chrome-tanned part of the process the jacket hides go threw?

I've never noticed it in ANY of the pics I've seen.....So it must be something you notice in person. I would imagine once the leather breaks down some and the shine wears off that would vanish.

Since I washed mine, I have not noticed it.....It may all be in my head though.

[pitfallharry]

When I get mine I'll have to see if I notice it......I doubt everyone that owns one is imagining it. It's obviously something to do with the way the hide was dyed..

I will tell you something I notice......All the jackets look almost black, even in direct sunlight. My goat was a dark brown and in certain lighting looked almost black.....most of the time though the brown color would pop out. Do you guys see that happening with your G&B's?

[GCR]

Mar 1, 2008 23:00:25 GMT -5 @pitfallharry said:

When I get mine I'll have to see if I notice it......I doubt everyone that owns one is imagining it. It's obviously something to do with the way the hide was dyed..

I will tell you something I notice......All the jackets look almost black, even in direct sunlight. My goat was a dark brown and in certain lighting looked almost black.....most of the time though the brown color would pop out. Do you guys see that happening with your G&B's?

I noticed it when mine was new, but I've worn it a lot since I got it last August and I don't notice it at all, now. Of course, my jacket has been rained and snowed on, plus I gave mine the "water treatment" to help get rid of the shine and give the smooth leather a bit more wrinkly character. It does seem lighter than it did when I first got it, though, and I'm sure it will continue to lighten up as it ages.

-GCR

[indakin]

ohhhh man you guys are killing me! That jacket does look awesome and the offer is great too. MY problem is Id WANT to distress it, but wouldnt let myself do it for that price. I like my goat alot now after working it in, its a great all weather jacket for me. The todds standard is the complete opposite in weight, which is going to allow me to wear it in the summer, and not sweat to death at a con in it. I do conventions in costume so much that i need something more functional for that. The Todds is so thin i barely notice it on with everything else. Id really like to get one of these GB but i think since i also have so many other costumes, i need to save money and just get the XXL todds. Darn you for posting such enticing pictures. If i only collected indy gear , then i would throw down for one of these.

[pitfallharry]

Yeah, I can't imagine how much money you've got wrapped up in all your Cosplay costumes, Bryan.

IF there is someway you can find the money I would TRY to get one now rather than wait. I ordered a G&B now because I'm afraid down the road the price is going to go even higher due to the new film coming out......Maybe it won't......I just didn't want to take that chance....

I think I'm just going to let mine age naturally.......I wear my jackets a lot, almost all year around......I'd prefer it to gain character threw everyday wear and tear......I *may* use some Fuller's Earth on it at some point.

[Ragingblues]

Thanks for the replies guys!

This is an indoor natural light shot from page 2 of this thread, showing my distressed dark brown Wested lamb, the dark brown Expedition lamb, and a dark brown Wested goat:



This is an outside shot (also from page 2) in the same order:



The Expedition was very new at the time (last August), so the shine was stonger. However, you can see from these comparisons that the dark brown color from G&B is not darker than the Wested dark brown selection. That's just a misconception that's been passed along somewhere, probably based on the comparison of two different photos taken by different people, etc...

If anything, it appears a shade lighter brown in these shots than the other two. I only wear my G&B as a normal wear type of jacket, and have no intention of putting it through any processes to lessen shine or change the character of the leather. The same goes for my Wested goatskin jacket. I already have the Wested lamb for that sort of look, so I intend to let the other two wear naturally.


Ken

[indakin]

yea i get what you guys are saying, it might get more pricey... but still, man i dont know if i should or could or need to drop almost 500 for that jacket.

[IndyBlues]

What size do you wear, Indakin? I have a like new size 46 reg for sale in the marketplace.
'Blues

[indakin]

oh man, that is a nice jacket, and that WOULD be the size id buy too. I dont know this is a tough one... $300 is definitely cheaper than the normal price , but still i can get 2 todds out of this. And would i still be able to get the life time warranty from G&B if i buy this second hand, or does it not matter, i jsut wasnt sure if i had to be the original buyer?

How long have u had the GB for, how much did u wear it, and any distressing at all yet, or issues. Ive very interested.... but the XXL todds is still super tempting, i like how thin they are for the jacket contrast.

kens pockets look great to me, its hard to see your shape good, if you could get better pics of them that could greatly increase my odds to buy!

Still please figure out how to entice me more!!!

[Ragingblues]

Mar 2, 2008 23:57:53 GMT -5 indakin said:

oh man, that is a nice jacket, and that WOULD be the size id buy too. I dont know this is a tough one... $300 is definitely cheaper than the normal price , but still i can get 2 todds out of this. And would i still be able to get the life time warranty from G&B if i buy this second hand, or does it not matter, i jsut wasnt sure if i had to be the original buyer?

How long have u had the GB for, how much did u wear it, and any distressing at all yet, or issues. Ive very interested.... but the XXL todds is still super tempting, i like how thin they are for the jacket contrast.

kens pockets look great to me, its hard to see your shape good, if you could get better pics of them that could greatly increase my odds to buy!

Still please figure out how to entice me more!!!

It's my understanding that the lifetime construction and zipper warranty from G&B is only for the original purchaser, as their name and info is listed when it's ordered. A phone call to them could clear that up, but I would be surprised if it tranfered to someone new.

I would want to see more photos of anything I was buying second hand from someone, as you can't be too sure. In this case however.... the pockets will actually be a non issue. One of the fantastic things about buying an Expedition is that they all have the identical pattern. You get screen pockets and flaps with every order... every time.

Buying something from IndyBlues would be a relief as well, since the guy is really honest and seems to barely use some of the things he sells! ;D (j/k Mike.... )


Ken

[IndyBlues]

I'm 99% sure ken is correct regarding the warranty. I doubt G&B would warranty it from buyer to buyer. However, the good thing is these jackets are built like tanks. Top notch stitching, and the liners are pretty heavy duty. I've been around the boards since '03, and can't recall anyone ever compaining about a G&B, aside from the price to buy one.

Mar 2, 2008 23:57:53 GMT -5 indakin said:

How long have u had the GB for, how much did u wear it, and any distressing at all yet, or issues. Ive very interested.... but the XXL todds is still super tempting, i like how thin they are for the jacket contrast.

This jacket is basically brand new. The only reason I'm selling her is because it NEVER gets worn. When I got it last year, it was the begining of Spring, so it was too warm to wear a leather jacket. Then when winter hit last year, it was too cold. I got about a weeks worth of wear out of it. Not even enough to break it in. Zero distressing or issues.

The Expedition lamb is VERY thin and lightweight. It drapes really nice(check out GManns pics) and feels super soft. Nicest lamb jacket I've ever owned. It is also very dark in color. Almost black when seen indoors. Would probably look very Raiders, if distressed and Fullers Earth were to be applied.......Man, I better stop writing this,..I'm starting to talk myself out of selling her. ;D

Here are a few pocket pics, to give you an idea how they look.





Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Mike

[indakin]

ok, well id like the keep the warrenty if possible. Is there some way we could say that you bought the jacket as a gift for me, so i could techincally still get warrenty. I mean id probably need your info from ordering just incase. For example if i had some reason to get this fixed, i woulc call and say, " hey i didnt buy the jacket, it was a gift." Do you think we could work around the system in this way?

And about the pockets... I'm always questioning the look of the shape of the flaps. I know his flaps in LC are a bit longer and more rounded, at least from the few shots ive seen and the one in the Smithsonian. Thats the image of the flaps i always have in my mind. But looking at pics more recently his flaps in Raiders are not so curved, and sometimes appear very pointed. I think the todds jacket i have does that really nicely, and the pocket flaps being right is the most important thing to me, because its what makes the indy jacket look like an indy jacket to me. I dont know maybe i still have a different image of his flaps in my mind for raiders. Do these look right to u?

[GCR]

Mar 3, 2008 11:34:38 GMT -5 indakin said:

And about the pockets... I'm always questioning the look of the shape of the flaps. I know his flaps in LC are a bit longer and more rounded, at least from the few shots ive seen and the one in the Smithsonian. Thats the image of the flaps i always have in my mind. But looking at pics more recently his flaps in Raiders are not so curved, and sometimes appear very pointed. I think the todds jacket i have does that really nicely, and the pocket flaps being right is the most important thing to me, because its what makes the indy jacket look like an indy jacket to me. I dont know maybe i still have a different image of his flaps in my mind for raiders. Do these look right to u?

If I may interject, I just wanted to point out that I've noticed the pocket flaps on my own G&B tend to look different depending on the angle at which they're viewed (or the angle of the camera...if that makes any sense). Different angles of view can either make them appear more pointed or more scalloped, while the reality lies somewhere in between. I also have to say I think the G&B pocket flaps are dead-on in their accuracy. I've never seen a Todd's jacket in person to compare, but considering Todd examined a G&B during the design process for his own jacket, I'd say there's a chance they are probably close.

-GCR

[indakin]

AHHH thats for that info GCR. Hey not to buggg you Blues.... but could u try to take a shot to show the scallop more? I see kens and they look good, like the todds.

And yea if you look at todds images of the standard thats pretty much what they look like, nice point to them. I could always mold the shape of the pocket more too if i wanted to.

[Kt. Templar]

It's always interested me how the scallopedness and pointyness of a pocket flap really can depend on what angle you are viewing it from.

The camera plays nasty tricks!

EG:

[IndyBlues]

Actually, my pockets look just like you see them in the pictures. Only slightly scalloped. If you like, I will work with you on the warranty thing. No skin off my nose.
Mike