Todd's Lambskin Jacket (PICS ADDED)

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Hey Folks,

The UPS truck will be dropping off the First of Todd's Lambskin Jackets here a bit later today.

This is the first one of his new Lambskin since the 1st Prototype that I got from him.

Hopefully it will get here early enough to take a few pics today. We have some nice cool weather today so I will probably be putting all the gear on for the first time since last year.

So no "This thread is worthless without Pics" remarks.

They will be up by the days end.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[pitfallharry]

Cool!

Can't wait to see this one. So Todd is still kind of testing things out as far as the jackets go? I haven't seen that he's "officially" started offering these jackets to the public yet. If he is then I missed it.

[agent5]

Can't wait to see how those pleats react. The Wested pleats are always saggy nowadays. I think it has more to do with the leather used than the way the jackets are constructed. I'm no expert but we'll have to see.

[Marc]

Could be the lack of interfacing...

Regards,

Marc

[rick5150]

agent5 said:

Can't wait to see how those pleats react. The Wested pleats are always saggy nowadays. I think it has more to do with the leather used than the way the jackets are constructed. I'm no expert but we'll have to see.

I always had a theory about that. Part of what I feel is an issue is that you can take a rather heavy horsehide jacket and break it in so it is quite floppy and has a great drape to it.

While researching various jackets and speaking to jacket makers, I found that there are different types of leather jackets for different applications. I am not using the right terminology, so bear with me.

When you buy a leather jacket for protection (like motorcyclists) get the stiff, heavy leather. Others ask for jackets that do not need to be broken in as much. Some leather shops refer to this as 'street leather." I was given the example that one person wanted a certain jacket as part of a costume and wanted it to be comfortable from the get-go.

With Indy jackets, we tend to want to go even beyond that 'street leather' and get thin leather that drapes like the screen-used jacket right off the bat and the result is a jacket that is less suited for adventure and more suited for display or casual wear.

When you look at a heavy duty jacket in FQHH or even cowhide that has sleeve gussets or bi-swing pleats or whatever the manufacturer calls them, they are still operable many, many years later - in fact, they operate better after they soften up and break in.

The thin leather that we crave for these jackets has no 'substance to it' and as such, cannot support itself, if that makes sense. I have jackets in 3.5-4.0 oz. horsehide that are broken in and have enough weight to them where they drape really well. The lamb and calfskin jackets do not have enough weight to them to simply fall down straight. I have seen a lot of these jackets that bell out like mini-skirts around the waist because of just that. They will not sit against the body. And I am not talking about big bellies or anything like that either...

[Kt. Templar]

Part of the floppiness is due to the pleats being too deep, the older jacket I have has about 1 inch pleats and they just lay flat and open and look great.

I have back elastic on my regular wear jacket (with deeper pleats) they stay shut but are a little wavy, not horribly so but still a little bit.

[Deleted]

Well it's here and it looks GREAT !

Very soft and I can tell it will distress very easily. Very Screen accurate.

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I will post more pics with it on later today.

Cheers,
G-MANN

[agent5]

Looks great, G. More pics! More pics!

Part of the floppiness is due to the pleats being too deep, the older jacket I have has about 1 inch pleats and they just lay flat and open and look great.

This is the case with my old Wested. Much smaller pleat depth and they look perfect. At one point Peter had a pleat depth of 3".

[pagey]

Wow - that yoke is considerably higher than the sleeve seam!!
How does it feel on? Is it a comfortable fit?

[Deleted]

Very Comfy, Fits like a glove













Is that enough pics Jason ? ;D

Cheers,
G-MANN

[pagey]

Very nice glove!!

[pitfallharry]

Dang, that is nice!

I really like that lambskin. I hope this is a leather that Todd will be able to offer on a regular basis. I'd love to see how that fit on me.

Very cool pics, G-Mann! It looks really good on you.

[pagey]

John, what's your opinion of the lambskin compared to the lambskin of your prototype - and compared to a modern Wested? To me, it looks similar to the Wested lamb- in that it's smooth and without a very noticeable grain. Also - is the fit different to your prototype jacket?

[IndyBlues]

Looks nice, John . How heavy is it compared to your G&B lamb?
Mike

[GCR]

WOW!!! That is an AWESOME looking jacket you have there John! Todd has done it again! It's great to see it in action with the rest of the gear. It really helps put it into perspective. Looks pretty damn screen-accurate, and it looks good on you to!

-GCR

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Nick,

The fit is very similar. The sleeves are a bit shorter than my first one.

The Lamb is softer than the prototype and less grainy but I think wearing this through one or two good rainstorms will puff the leather up a bit and start to give it a texture close to what my Expedition is getting after the same treatment. Also it is softer than the one Wested that I own.

Harry,

Thanks, it was fun putting all the gear on after such a long time.

Mike,

It is just a tad lighter weight wise than the Expedition. Similar in texture.

GCR,

Thanks man

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Ragingblues]

I can only what's been said already.... a beautiful jacket you have there John!

Congrats to you getting it and to Todd for producing such a fine product!

Ken

[indianadirk]

Nice Jacket John ! I really wanted to get a todds jacket , But the 499 price is holding me back !

[Ragingblues]

When or where did Todd say his jackets had gone up to that price?

BTW.... John offered a deal on these a while back, and nobody around here paid anything near that much money for one. Back then, the price was $375... and John paid $100 toward each one, lowering the price to $275 for the folks who wanted in on the deal. The deal days are over, but I had no idea Todd had gone up in price that much.

Todd, anything from you on it to set things straight?

Ken

[indianadirk]

when the deal was posted I didnt have the money,
It says so on his site 499 dollars.

[Ragingblues]

His website price was intended for the general public. I was under the impression that we had a better deal going on (gearheads I mean). But, things change... and there must be a reason if it has.

BTW, I didn't have any funds for one of the deal jackets either .

Ken

[indianadirk]

I'll Pm todd then !
I really want one of his jackets after seeing this !

[pastimesteve]

John -- that is a stupendously cool jacket! Congratulations! Just fantastic!

Regarding Todd's price, I can understand the new price considering the top quality work, but there's no way I'll ever afford that. It makes me sad that I missed out on the $275 deal, because I actually have some cash now that would make the special price workable.

Steve

[winstonwolf359]

Wow, that is one amazing jacket!

Glad you had the time to put on the whole outfit, too. That's a great looking set of gear!

[todd]

G-MANN, looks good on you!

That is my custom lambskin - the tannery made PLENTY up for me so I will have it available reliably. With wear and moisture it will distress quickly and look very authentic. Or you can wet it and crunch it in your hands for a quick distress.

The website price is $499, but for club members FOR A LIMITED TIME the price is $375. E-mail me for the special price [e-mail]. It seems no matter how many we do, the labor time is still way more than we expected. We only make ONE jacket in the time it takes Peter to make THREE. I wish we were faster, but we're not. We are very careful and slow because we know that you guys want every stitch to be perfect, so we are trying very hard not to make mistakes. We cut the pieces perfectly and take great care putting it together. (even at that, we still slip up) So, what I am saying is that I'm not kidding when I say that we will be reducing the discount for club members soon.