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Post by Kt. Templar on Dec 6, 2006 21:29:25 GMT -5
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Post by Ragingblues on Dec 6, 2006 22:21:57 GMT -5
I wonder why these guys made the mistake of claiming their stuff was "authorized" when it wasn't? I know, that means more sales... but, it's pretty easy to get caught that way too.
It's a good thing we don't make any money around here, especially on any of GL's property. There probably are some Indy sites that do bring in ad revenue though, and who knows... he might get around to them at some point too.
Ken
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Post by pitfallharry on Dec 6, 2006 22:27:54 GMT -5
Well, I can't fault Lucas at all for this. People that are making this stuff and claiming it's authorized to do so should be caught.
I'm not aware of anyone that we know of on the Indy side of things claiming such nonsense...can you guys think of any?
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Post by Ragingblues on Dec 6, 2006 22:42:20 GMT -5
I don't fault him either, as it's all his property to make money from. I don't know of any Indy sites in particular, but there has to be someone out there making illegal claims about a product. I'm wondering if a fan based site or forum that is making ad revenue could be open for legal issues. They might be able to make a case that it's George's character that is drawing in visitors, so an agreement should have been signed before any ad revenue was collected. That certainly isn't the case here, as we don't make a penny off of anything around here. But, I have seen some Indy sites with what looked like paid placement banners. Let's hope it never comes to that sort of thing. Photography copyrights are broken every 1/1000th of a second on the net, including at fan forums. But, since places like this promote the character and ultimately generate more income for people like George Lucas in other ways.... and since no advertisment money is earned here, I think these sorts of places should be pretty safe. Since we are, in essence, a free promotion machine for Uncle George in many ways..... so, I would like to know.... Where's our check?  Ken |
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Post by indianatone on Dec 6, 2006 22:43:49 GMT -5
Nope. Other than Wested, D Morgan, and HJ; but I'm sure they worked out the rights to sell their stuff as authentic but "not licensed" a while ago.
Nobody else sells anything as "officially licensed" even though their products should be the officially licensed version.
If the officially licensed stuff were any good, we wouldn't have all these other guys making adventure-gear.
These lightsaber guys, though......Don't know what they expected by putting "licensed" on their sabers. That's like asking for it.
As for the Indy sites......hmm. That's a good question. As they are a fanatic nitch (nowhere near the fanbase size of the SW franchise) they could stand to lose a lot more than a few bucks on missed Disney sales if they started clutching the fans out of good stuff to use. I agree that these types of sites DO keep Indy alive.
I know after the first Dorfman or two warped and turned to crud, I'd be done buying the licensed stuff.
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Post by pitfallharry on Dec 6, 2006 23:32:28 GMT -5
That kind of brings up the whole other issue of well made "licensed" stuff for SW and for the most part a lot of junk when it comes to Indy. I know SW is a bigger money machine but still. Look at the money we fork out for non licensed Indy stuff. If they'd make some top quality stuff for the Indy fans Lucas wouldn't have to spend the time having people combing the net looking for copyright and trademark infringements. Then again he does offer nice official lightsabers and their still being copied.  Also, IF Lucas were offering official hats along the lines of the AB and AB Deluxe we'd be paying double for them. So maybe we should thank Dorfman for producing crap hats. ;D |
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Post by indianatone on Dec 6, 2006 23:48:45 GMT -5
Well, they couldn't even get the hat right for their own sequels.... I don't know. I'm okay with the non-licensed Adventure fedoras that are out there.  |
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Post by pitfallharry on Dec 6, 2006 23:58:07 GMT -5
Well, they couldn't even get the hat right for their own sequels.... I don't know. I'm okay with the non-licensed Adventure fedoras that are out there. ;D Very true. Yes, thank goodness we have a fantastic choice of non-licensed adventure fedoras out there to choose from. |
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Post by indianatone on Dec 7, 2006 0:25:16 GMT -5
Besides, the vendors aren't selling Indy hats. They just mention they happened to like the one from Indiana Jones; however, what they're selling is the true-to-form "other guy" fedoras.  |
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Post by Kt. Templar on Dec 7, 2006 3:32:36 GMT -5
I thing the "Authorised" part is only one side to the story, and it's a easy nail to hook the suit on. I don't think SDS said they were authorised and I don't even think they used the words Star Wars or Stormtrooper either.
It is all about keeping the licencees happy, they've paid the big bucks for the privilage.
On the subject of lightsabers in particular someone like Kalkamel or Stefana will be able to comment more but my experience of a Master Replicas saber is that it's a well made "commercial quality" replica, it has the sound effects and light etc. I don't like how the hilt is oversized and the finish is a little bit too much of a combined casting and it's a bit overchromed. I've seen one by one of the other makers that is made piece by piece just like the movie prop using a replica graflex flash as the starting point. It is the same size as the movie prop and the blade even detatches. It is missing the sound effects, clash sensor and the light up, power down led effects.
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Post by Ragingblues on Dec 7, 2006 9:20:47 GMT -5
I have no idea about the company at all. I was just going by the new story that says the company does claim on their website that the lightsabers are "authorized". It appeared to me that they should have just marketed themselves differently, like the Indy gear vendors we know. Saying things like "similar to one seen in..." or "in the spirit of..." would have saved them a ton of cash. This would have been common sense to me, but if they truly did list their products as "authorized", they should have seen this coming.
It could be that all the piracy going on with music, video, and software, that they just didn't think there would ever be any real consequences. That attitude seems to be pretty prevelant with many people today, so it's very likely.
Ken
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