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Post by bumpasses on Mar 28, 2014 7:11:07 GMT -5
Hello
I am looking at purchasing a Raiders Fedora.
I have read through several threads here and more confused now than I was.
I am simply am unclear on the differences between
Adventurebilt Deluxe Raider
Adventurebilthats Raider
Penman Raider
Please advise
-JD
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Post by ThrowMeTheWhip on Mar 29, 2014 22:03:21 GMT -5
Different hat makers. Don't order from Adventurebilt hats-- Steve Delk is seriously backlogged and still hasn't delivered hats guys have ordered as much as 6 years ago… I'd say the chance you'll get a hat is pretty slim.
Adventurebilt Deluxe is based in Germany. Sister company to Adventurebilt Hats. That's Marc Kitter's operation.
John Penman is based here in the US. He's probably your best bet on timeliness and price.
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Post by garylafortuna on Mar 30, 2014 3:38:11 GMT -5
Contact John at Penman hats. You will not find a finer fedora anywhere. And if you want the best of the best, grab the pure beaver felt. Ask me how I know.
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Post by bumpasses on Mar 30, 2014 8:51:22 GMT -5
Different hat makers. Don't order from Adventurebilt hats-- Steve Delk is seriously backlogged and still hasn't delivered hats guys have ordered as much as 6 years ago… I'd say the chance you'll get a hat is pretty slim. hmmmm not sure how accurate that statement is... He quoted me at 4 weeks from payment just 2 days ago... -j |
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Post by ThrowMeTheWhip on Mar 31, 2014 12:13:29 GMT -5
Different hat makers. Don't order from Adventurebilt hats-- Steve Delk is seriously backlogged and still hasn't delivered hats guys have ordered as much as 6 years ago… I'd say the chance you'll get a hat is pretty slim. hmmmm not sure how accurate that statement is... He quoted me at 4 weeks from payment just 2 days ago... -j Don't believe me if you want. You asked for information from those of us who know. And I know, being that I've spoken to many guys who have bought from him. He continues to take orders, but he's back-logged upwards of 6 years. Just because he takes your money doesn't mean he'll ship you any thing... |
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Post by zmarty on Mar 31, 2014 18:51:10 GMT -5
I mean, he did say he got a quote for a month....
ANYWAY, yeah, I would shoot John a PM. I think his screen name is Bendingoak. He also has a facebook and instagram. Really cool guy with some awesome products. Not saying that the other guys are not, he is just the one I have had one on one experience with. Though I don't own a hat (yet), I figured the quality is as good as his personality.
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Post by ThrowMeTheWhip on Apr 1, 2014 2:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by bumpasses on Apr 1, 2014 8:33:35 GMT -5
Don't take it personally. I appreciate the heads up I can only assume a vendor is honest until proven otherwise. So when he quoted me at 4 weeks, I assumed that was an honest assessment. There are always going to be people who are not satisfied with any given product and its hard to know if that is the opinion you are receiving. -j |
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Post by Ragingblues on Apr 1, 2014 19:33:10 GMT -5
Nobody is pulling your leg about the delivery time of hats from Steve. There are far too many great places to get a nice Indy hat these anyway. You can't go wrong with Penman Hats if you live in the U.S. or Adventurebilt Deluxe from Marc if you are in Europe.
Ken
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Post by bumpasses on Apr 2, 2014 8:31:45 GMT -5
Nobody is pulling your leg about the delivery time of hats from Steve. There are far too many great places to get a nice Indy hat these anyway. You can't go wrong with Penman Hats if you live in the U.S. or Adventurebilt Deluxe from Marc if you are in Europe. Ken Im just trying to figure out what is going to be most screen accurate at this point that wont be the same cost as my mortgage that I will see sooner rather than later and an Indy that can take a beating. Lots of information and opinions, still trying to cypher everything. I have read a few threads were John Penman himself has recommended AB hats over his own for durability. So that is what I went with. He has been really good about communicating with me thus far. I really do appreciate all the feedback from everyone. My payment to Steve at AB had already gone through before I had read the negative threads. Hopefully my experience will redeem the negative ones others have had. From what I have read, he is filling backorders and giving refunds through the new hat buyers like me. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, sounds like he has had some life curve balls. so we will see. Here is a big thread about it all over at the Fedora Lounge; www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?56878-Adventurebilt-hats-status-update-%28read-if-you-have-an-outstanding-order%29/page17&highlight=steve+delk-j |
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Post by zmarty on Apr 4, 2014 0:31:38 GMT -5
Good to hear, friend! Be sure to post some pictures as soon as it arrives!
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Post by Ragingblues on Apr 5, 2014 20:26:20 GMT -5
All everyone else can say is at this point is.... best of luck. If you get your hat before people that have waiting for YEARS to get theirs, something is seriously wrong. It's obvious that he can't fill a few years worth of orders quickly, using the money from new hat sales to pay for the materials for old orders.
Ken
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Post by bumpasses on Apr 6, 2014 10:52:26 GMT -5
All everyone else can say is at this point is.... best of luck. If you get your hat before people that have waiting for YEARS to get theirs, something is seriously wrong. It's obvious that he can't fill a few years worth of orders quickly, using the money from new hat sales to pay for the materials for old orders. Ken I spoke with Steve. His cancer nearly bankrupted him. He is using new orders to fund the old. Kind of a one for one New sale, funds the material for an older order. Not an ideal situation by any stretch, but he is bound and determined to fill every order. To keep new sales coming in, they need to be reasonable turn around Times. To fill and honor old orders he needs new sales. Not looking to start a flame thread, to justify what has happened or to upset any one. Just sharing my experience thus far and giving Steve the benefit of the doubt here. Similar information is given in the thread link i posted above. Thank you for the information that has been shared. ~joshuah |
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Post by zmarty on Apr 6, 2014 21:32:36 GMT -5
Awh man... Cancer is a pretty good excuse in my book.
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Post by bendingoak on Apr 12, 2014 1:10:51 GMT -5
Nobody is pulling your leg about the delivery time of hats from Steve. There are far too many great places to get a nice Indy hat these anyway. You can't go wrong with Penman Hats if you live in the U.S. or Adventurebilt Deluxe from Marc if you are in Europe. Ken Im just trying to figure out what is going to be most screen accurate at this point that wont be the same cost as my mortgage that I will see sooner rather than later and an Indy that can take a beating. Lots of information and opinions, still trying to cypher everything. I have read a few threads were John Penman himself has recommended AB hats over his own for durability. So that is what I went with. He has been really good about communicating with me thus far. I really do appreciate all the feedback from everyone. My payment to Steve at AB had already gone through before I had read the negative threads. Hopefully my experience will redeem the negative ones others have had. From what I have read, he is filling backorders and giving refunds through the new hat buyers like me. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, sounds like he has had some life curve balls. so we will see. Here is a big thread about it all over at the Fedora Lounge; www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?56878-Adventurebilt-hats-status-update-%28read-if-you-have-an-outstanding-order%29/page17&highlight=steve+delk-j Just so we are clear. I recommend Steve over myself because he is Steve Delk. who has raised the bar and the standards for the Raiders/Indy hats. Before him, there wasn't a lot of choices and they all fell short. I doubt I said more usable then my own. I don't call my hats bulldog tough for nothing. ;-) |
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Post by bumpasses on Apr 13, 2014 7:04:02 GMT -5
Just so we are clear. I recommend Steve over myself because he is Steve Delk. who has raised the bar and the standards for the Raiders/Indy hats. Before him, there wasn't a lot of choices and they all fell short. I doubt I said more usable then my own. I don't call my hats bulldog tough for nothing. ;-)  |
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