My first vendor post!

[jeremym]

Hello everybody! For those of you who are regularly in the bullwhip section, you know me. For those who aren't,

hello, my name is Jeremy McEachern, I've been making whips about a year now, and have enjoyed every second of it. I was

just today granted vendor status, and thought I would put up a general information thread about my whips.

Hello everybody! For those of you who are regularly in the bullwhip section, you know me. For those who aren't,

hello, my name is Jeremy McEachern, I've been making whips about a year now, and have enjoyed every second of it. I was

just today granted vendor status, and thought I would put up a general information thread about my whips.


First of all, my whips are kangaroo. I make them, unless otherwise requested, with a leather core, 2 kangaroo

plaited bellies, and two leather bolsters ( kip or cowhide, and on certain occasions, kangaroo, this depends on

what I have at hand, and what will best suit the whip at that time ). Finally this is all covered with a kangaroo

overlay, consisting of, for right now, 8 , 12, or 16 strands. All the knots, wrist loops, and anything plaited, is in

first grade kangaroo leather. Any leather I use is good quality, I don't use cheap stuff.

For right now, I only offer bullwhips. I can make all the Indy styles, Australian styled, and American styled. They

are fully customize-able to what you want, and I currently am offering them at a much lower price than you would

find for similar whips. Also, these whips aren't made to be wallhangers, they are completely functional and crack

VERY well. They make a nice looking wallhanger, I'm just saying that's not what I make them to be. They're

built from the core up, to be used!

The regular prices go for single colored, standard style whips. Standard style is regular indy whips ( movies 1-3 )

, basic american styled and basic austrlaian styled whips. For a young indy whip, or a Crystal skull styled whip,

which either take more time, more materials, or a mixture of the two, cost an extra $50 on top of the price listed

below. If you have any questions about what the difference between all the different styles of whips, just pm

me or email me ( email will be shown at the bottom of the page ).

Standard colors are natural tan, saddle tan, brandy, and black. Natural tan is kind of a biscuit color, saddle tan is

a light brown with a reddish tint to it, and brandy is a dark brown that looks almost black indoors, but the brown can

be seen under natural light. Other colors can be gotten, but they may cost more, depending on a few variables.

Also, the colors other than black will slowly darken throughout their life.

8 plait


6 foot long : $250 plus shipping

8 foot long : $300 plus shipping

10 foot long : $375 plus shipping

12 foot long : $475 plus shipping


12 plait


6 foot long : $300 plus shipping

8 foot long : $350 plus shipping

10 foot long : $425 plus shipping

12 foot long : $ $525 plus shipping


16 plait


6 foot long : $350 pus shipping

8 foot long : $400 plus shipping

10 foot long : $475 plus shipping

12 foot long : $575 plus shipping


All my whips come with a spare fall of your choosing ( I currently only have whitehide and indian tanned latigo ) , 5 extra crackers,

(I can get nylon of any color, literally any color, and white polypropylene), a small cup of pecards leather dressing, and a

maintenance guide. US shipping averages $14-$18, insurance included, and international shipping has been averaging $48-$60,

prices in USD. For Canada or Mexico, please ask for shipping rates as they differ from US and international. I prefer to use paypal,

but am open to other payment options. Before I start work on a whip, I ask for a 50% down payment, with the rest due before

the whip is shipped.

Finally, here's a couple things that people I recently sold whips to have said...

Got the whip in today and wow. I must say, it turned out perfect! It looks and feels exactly how I imagined. The color is perfect and everything.
ramphastid - Indylounge

IT HAS ARRIVED!!!! WOW I just unpacked it and I have to say I am very very impressed sir. I took it outside a few moments ago and what a monstrous crack she has. Will write more later.

Cheers!
Bogie1943 – Club Obi Wan


Its arrived!
 
What else can i say but wow! Its a stunning looking whip. Id like to say thank you
 for the very generous deal you made on it for me and all the hard work you did
 
Kind regards
Tony ( morethanatimelord - Club Obi Wan )


And here's a picture that morethanatimelord sent me of the whip with some of his indy gear. The whip is an

8 foot long, 12 plait Last Crusade Styled whip in saddle tan kangaroo:



And a bigger version of the same picture:

img18.imageshack.us/img18/5507/indybullwhip0021.jpg


If anyone has any questions or has anything to say really, please either post them here on the thread, pm me,

or email me :

[e-mail]

Thanks for reading everybody! I have something in the works right now that I'll be announcing here, so keep an

eye out for that!

[Deleted]

Best of luck on your future endeavors.

Cheers,
John

[niagrawhipco]

Great gear pic and beautiful whip!

[jeremym]

Thank you, both of you

All the materials for the "something I have in the works right now"

are either here or on their way, it's starting to come together!

[niagrawhipco]

Looking forward to seeing more of your work!

[jeremym]

I've had a couple questions recently about what the characteristics of each movie whip are. I thought I'd put it up here so I don't

keep writing practically the same message repeatedly :lol:

To preface, there were many whips used in each movie, at times I've heard that as many as 20 or more were used, but even if it
weren't as many, you can get the idea that it wasn't the same whip being used throughout the movie. This applies to not only the length, but the overall appearance of the whip as well.

The three things that varied most were how thick the whips were, and where the handle knots were placed and how they were
shaped, along with how the handle was shaped. I've come up with a general look I give each movie whip based off the countless screenshots I've studied, along with watching the movies ( can't just look at pictures ) repeatedly. These are again, just general descriptions of how I see them, so if you see something a little different, just tell me what you want on the whip and I can do it, no problem.

To start, these are the characteristics of ALL the indy whips. ( if you want to skip right down to each movie, go down until you see the bolded movie names )

First off, the whips were all originally natural tan. Natural tan leather darkens with exposure to the sun, application of leather
dressing, and use. While a natural tan whip may be very light at first, it doesn't take a whole lot of time for it to become the color you see on screen ( depending on which scene you are looking at ).
I can, of course, make an indy whip in another color, I'm just informing everybody what the "true" screen accurate color was.
Terry Jacka's Crystal skull whips, started with saddle tan leather, not natural tan, although it can be made, as with other whips, in any color desirable.

All the indy whips started with an 8" handle foundation, except the crystal skull whips which has a 7" handle foundation. The length of the handles appear to vary, and this is due to a couple factors. For one, where the ring knots , also known as the transition knot ( knot at the end of the handle ) was placed at different lengths, giving the appearance the handle had changed lengths. Also, when a whip gets thicker, the handle appears to become shorter, and the opposite is also true, when a whip is thinner, the handle appears longer.

The handle knots, all indy whips had the same handle knots. For the heel knot, a knot known as a 5x4 3 pass knot was always
tied, and for the ring knot, a 5x4 2 pass was always tied. This was for David Mogran whips, for Terry Jacka's Crystal Skll whip, the knots were each 6x7 2 pass.

The wrist loop, approximately 6 inches long ( give or take some, I've seen them anywhere from 5.5" to 6.5" on David Morgan whips ). The loop was always plaited in a 6 plait ( 6 strands ) totaling approximately 1/2" wide ( again, variations are allowed ). This was for David Morgan whips, for Terry Jacka's Crystal Skull whip, the wrist loop was a 4 plait, approximately 8 inches long.

All indy whips were 12 plait ( 12 strands on the final layer ) with a diamond pattern on the handle, with a transition to the
regular herringbone pattern near the end of the handle. The whips were dropped down to a 6 plait point through the length of the whip ( 6 strands covering the end of the whip ). This was the case for David Morgan indy whips, for Terry Jacka's Crystal
Skull whip, it was a 12 plait whip, ending in a 8 plait point.

Now, finally, the variations for the movies.

The Raiders whip tends to be very thin, with a long looking handle. The handle is straight, with no taper, though there is a slight bulge at the end of the handle, either right before the ring knot or right under the knot. And also ( optional, up to personal preference ) the ring knot sometimes appears to be slightly darker than the rest of the whip. The heel knot is fairly bulky.

The Temple of Doom whip is also very thin, with an even longer looking handle. The handle starts to taper thicker near the half way point on the handle, reaching it's thickest part at the start of the thong. The ring knot is placed partly on the handle and
partly on the flexible portion of the whip, known as the thong. The heel knot is a little slimmer and longer looking, rather than a bulkier , rounder knot you see on the other movie whips.

The Last Crusade whip is a little less exact. I see a couple different things. For one, I see a whip that is similar to the Temple of Doom in that it tapers thicker toward the middle point of the handle. The transition knot though, is placed a little further in the handle, and the whip also appears to have a thicker overall profile. The heel knot is shaped like the raiders whip, unlike the longer Temple of doom knot.
What I also see in Last Crusade is a whip similar to the Raiders whip, in that it has a straight, none tapered handle, with a bulge at the end. Again though, the ring knot is placed a little shorter, and the whip as a thicker overall profile. Again the heel knot is shaped like the raiders whip.

The Young Indy whip. I'm talking about the whip indy uses on the train to ward off the lion. Red handle, black everything else. It's rumored that was a whip leftover from raiders, dyed those colors, but what I see is more along the lines of the second last crusade whip I described, with the different colors. Also, the young indy whip, unless requested otherwise, has no wrist loop.

The Crystal skull whip , unless requested to be more "normal", is quite thick and quite stiff in the transition area ( start of the flexible area past the handle ). There is a bulge a little before the ring knot, which happens to be 4.5-5" past the heel knot. It also has, instead of the standard 8" handle, a 7" handle. Also, the heel knot appears to be less shaped, more cylinder looking. The transition knot is bulkier than David Morgan's, but not so much that it appears rounded.

Once again, these are all fully customize-able to what you may or may not want, just be sure to specify to me what you're wanting, and I can do it!


Kind of a long message I know, and possibly ( though hopefully not! ) a little overwhelming. There's just so many details that I think need to be done right, and I'd prefer to give too much information than not enough.

There, I hope this has helped somebody, thanks for reading!

[niagrawhipco]

Thanks for the clarification as I know it will go a long way to informing your customers of your abilities to match the different looks of the Indy Whips. One thing that I personally prefer in the later Indy whips, especially in the Last Crusade and Crystal Skull whips is that there is a noticeable taper, or flare out as I've heard it referred to, where the handle thickness is just slightly smaller in diameter to the thickness of the beginning of the thong. The common way I've seen it done is to move the yoke of the second plaited belly further down the handle before the overlay is plaited, which causes the final overlay to bulge slightly where it passes over the start of the yoke, though I'm sure there are other ways it could be done as well. Again, thank you for posting this, and it's great to know that you can create all of these nuanced looks in your whips.

[jeremym]

What I wrote about the TOD and Last crusade whip, did it com across differently from what you described? Because that is what I mean, it stays about the same diameter, then slowly tapers thicker toward the end of the handle.

I do something similar with the Crystal skull whip, unless otherwise requested. Basing it off the pictures on Terry's site of the whips he sent for the movie, there is a bulge at the end of the handle, but it's less of a sudden bulge, like you see when indy whips have a bulge. It's more a quick, but smooth, taper.

edit: oh, and depending on what look I'm going for, I use a mixture of the second belly yoke, and/or the second bolster to give the handle a taper. I use a safety beveler to give it a taper in thickness, to the point where it's nearly paper thin at it's start.

[niagrawhipco]

No, what you described is the same as what I was talking about. I was just trying to confirm that we where both referring to the same look in the finished whip. Which is the look I tend to prefer when it comes to Indy whips. : )

I'm really interested in the whip making process which explains why I post so regularly on Louie Foxx's whip blog! haha

[jeremym]

If you have any other questions about it, just pm or email me and I'll be happy to answer them for you