Hat Etiquette

[basil]

Howdy all,

I've been wondering what everyone's thoughts on hat etiquette is.

With so many of us owning a Indy fedora it would be interesting to see who wears theirs everyday and what etiquette they practice.

Thanks for helping out an enquiring mind.

[bendingoak]

If I'm outside I wear my hat. If I go to someone's house or apartment I take it off. If I stop and chat with a women on the street I take it off unless it's raining. If I go inside like a department store or something like that I leave it on but take it off in a elevator.

[basil]

Same as I've been doing. The only difference was I haven't really been taking it off in the elevator.

I hear some people do some people don't. But I should start taking it off in there I think.

[trdaggers]

Since I relocated to the south I have noticed a total disregard for "hat etiquette." No one takes their hat off when they are eating in restaurant. When people come into my house they never remove their hats. I must admit it has rubbed off on me. I'm located in Florida. I was brought up in Maryland and it was a lot different there.

[trdaggers]

Oh! I forgot to mention when you go out to eat and say get a table for four, there no place to put your hat unless you want to put it on the floor. Most establishments don't have coat rooms or hat checks anymore unless your eating at the Ritz. Also you ever notice what your hair looks like when you remove your hat? it's not a pretty site. We have all seen Indy at a bar with his hat on.

[bendingoak]

No place to put your hat hit your head I would say just keep it on but don't you worry I'm working on the solution.

[basil]

Hmm working on the solution?

Are you gonna make one of those fancy pocket purse hooks but for a hat:)

[whipless01]

I don't care WHERE I am, I would only take my hat off for funerals.

[trdaggers]

I have to say I feel the same way. Really! If the don't like the hat then throw me out. I may have been a little different 30 years ago but at 69 I do and wear what I want and when I want.

[jerry]

One instance none of you mentioned but everyone should remove their hat if they are American is during the Pledge of Allegiance. Period. No ifs, ands, buts or questions about it. No PC BS here.

Jerry

[fifthchamber]

I gotta say that as far as "keeping my hat on"....Nah...That ain't it...Not at all...There are times when it's the right thing to do..And in the presence of a lady is one of them..People DO notice, even if the lady you're with doesn't...And it shows a "class" that is, sadly, lacking in many modern societies.. It's ALSO NOT patronisizing, and I see no reason why one WOULDN'T do it..I'm with John on that..Entirely..

In elevators I take it off, and when I'm inside someplace I'm going to stay for a duration as well... If it's a "pop-in" then I won't remove it...The rules are there and I find them simple enough to keep..Although of course, situations DO change, and so does the response to them (Hence John mentioning "rain" and what changes then...I agree entirely)..

To NOT do so shows your lack of breeding in my opinion, or simply that you "don't care", which amounts to the same thing...Not cool..

If I was American, yeah, it would be wrong to not remove it for the Pledge too...Although I would not do so for the National Anthem perhaps....Although maybe I would? I'm English, and we care less in general about songs.....But again, that depends on the situation....

Regards..

[basil]

I agree it was kinda rude to hear someone say they don't take their hat off for anyone or anything.

[trdaggers]

You can call it what you will but I said what I said and I stand by it. You may call it rude, but the question was raised and I answered honestly. Your opinons are duly noted but there is no reason to be rude in your respones. It's a free country here in the states.

Gailen David

[indyclone25]

if im oustide and meet up with a female i tip my hat but leave it on , i also take it off at restaurants unless there isnt a spare sit to put it on , if not i wear it . and i wear it in most stores . i dont' really follow the traditional hat values except to say hello to a lady.

[trdaggers]

Yes, that's pretty well my code to. Except for tipping my hat to the ladies. But that's a nice gesture. Might try it.

[jerry]

Well, I don't know anything really about England, so I can't say what I would do there, and just being curious about things like this, wouldn't it be customary to take off a hat should the Queen or King or someone like that go by? I am solely asking to satisfy my curiosity, as I've always heard the English are more formal, (a bit of which I think would be good for America as well, but that is me.) However in the U.S. We don't really ask all that much in regards to respect for the country, so when someone refuses to do the few things we do ask, it really gets under my skin. (excepting of course those who legitimately cannot or should not for whatever reason.)

Jerry

[fifthchamber]

Gailen...

I wasn't aiming that at you mate....I'm just saying that when you let decency and "correct" manners slide, you show that you're not someone who "cares", and I feel that that is a rather bad position to be in..What you do is free to decide in my country too, but that doesn't mean I'm just as "free" to be rude as I am to be polite...Some things SHOULD be observed because there's a good reason to them, and the "ettiquete" of wearing a hat is one of those things...

Besides some small debate I have about the States being "free" anymore, I wasn't trying to be rude to you...Just stating that your "code" means that essentially you don't have one..Which is rather odd to me..Tis' all..

Still...It's your call.

[fifthchamber]

Jerry...

In regards to your question, no, if the Queen was passing it would probably be okay to not do so....However, if she was meeting you, and you DIDN'T, that would be a sign of bad manners...Passing is harder, since there's so many usually when she passes, and it's so brief, that removing a hat would probably not need to be done....But if she passed close, and there were only one or two people near by, I probably would....

I think it's "situational good manners" in that case....For HER, I'd remove it, but for a carriage and if she would never notice or care, I think it could be forgiven to NOT do so..BUT, that depends on the situation....

I think your last passage would be England as well...Most of "us" don't care especially about many rules and customs...And I happen to not care about many as well..But I DO care about customs and rules that affect those close to me, and those I interact with..So, hat "manners" are essential....In my humble opinion.

Regards.

[trdaggers]

I hold the door open for others, I help those in distress, I hold my knife and fork correctly when dinning, and in general have good manners. Please tell me that I'm not going to be denied entrance to heaven for where or when I wear my hat???

[fifthchamber]

Nope..Since heaven is an idea made up by the same people who believe a virgin gave birth... ;-)

Buuuuut....I happen to place a fair bit of importance on manners, since that is how we all manage to get along in this world..It has nothing to do with a god of any kind, but more to do with respect for oneself and for those you interact with...

That's what I place value on, and why I respect the "rules" behind the wearing of hats...It shows my friends that I respect them enough to do it.

;-)

[trdaggers]

There are no rules. No penalites of any kind. There are only suggestions that one may wish to follow or not. Just like your opinion on God is.

Gailen David

[fifthchamber]

Yep...Entirely agreed...

And this thread is about that.....Not about god, odin, amaterasu, or any other fairies that are named..

Regards.