jrzjoe whips

[manpurse]

does anyone own or know about the jrzjoe whips on ebay. they refer to them on the raven.

[modelmaker4]

they are well made good whips, that last time I practiced with mine it took a little chunk out of my arm, it hurt like hell. I don't use it much though.

[manpurse]

would you be willing to sell me the whip for around 50 dollars

[modelmaker4]

possibly, it's a brown 12 plait 12 ft. whip. I will have to think about it.
I don't know how to use paypal when it comes to selling stuff, maybe someone else can chime in about this, I do have a paypal account, Let me read into it and then get back to you.

[indianabravo]

Hello

The general consensus is that these whips are cheaply made and generally of low quality. I have seen pictures of these whips broken at the transition after moderate use and the inner layers are made up of cheap materials. If it is display model you are looking for, then this may be an option. For an operational whip, Todds or a nylon whip would probably be the way to go. I guess it really depends on your budget and what use you are going to get out of it.

Regards

IndianaBravo

[indyclone25]

yeah not the best whip , i mean i have three jrzjoes. two tan10ft and a brown 13ft. they are made with 4 pliats , they do crack. my son has been using one 10ft to crack and the other is now a back up for when that is done with (cause the fall is slowly getting smaller), and the 13ft is just for show it was mostly used for my costume back in 2008. i could part with the 13 ft for about 20 bucks and 10 for shipping? so if your interested manpurse let me know?

this is the brown 13ft

[manpurse]

i've changed my mind about buying one of these by looking at the above comments

[patchcamel]

I have the 10ft 12 plait brown whip, it cracks fine, I have had it for a year and a half, I also have the tan 6ft 4 plait which was my first whip. It is a few years old and is pretty worn, I have replaced the fall on that one. They are not bad for the money, but after seeing the Todd's whip, I wish I had just waited and got one of those.

[kwad]

I HAD one of the 10plt. deluxe whips from JrZJoke. I bought it before I knew any better.

After owning it for several years (and never being able to crack it) I decided to take it apart with the hopes of rebraiding it.
What I found inside was a bunch of cellucotton matterial tied with string! (Yes, the core of my whip was a tampon).
And the last foot of the whip had NO CORE AT ALL! It was a hollow braided tube!

This whip was sold to me by a man that claimed it was a professional quality, all leather whip!


Bottom line? JrZJoke is a liar who sells overpriced leather rope.

[Robby]

Here's a pic what it looks like on the inside...




Robby

[kwad]

Yep, the inside of mine looked just like Robby's.

[ThrowMeTheWhip]

To paraphrase a famous scruffy-looking hero:

And I thought they looked bad on the outside...

[Robby]

Well, to be on the safe side, you should always ask what's inside. No matter if it's that jrzjoe or any other whipmaker.
An honest whipmaker will tell you anytime what's at the inside. Roo, cow...or paper.

Okay, that jrzjoe is the only one I've ever seen who used paper as core...

So you should ask if it's roo or cowhide. Or a mixture of both. For example bellies & overlay roo, bolsters cow.
But like I said - an honest craftsman will tell you in detail what you pay for.

Robby

[parttime]

As a whip maker I understand the desire to offer an inexspensive whip for those customers that just can't justify spending close to $300 for a well made whip. However the time involved with making even a cheap whip is just not cost effective at least for me. Therefore I stay clear of this price range product and stick with quality vs quanity. But if I were to make a cheaper whip I would at least use the scrap leather from the good whips for a core before I used rope or paper.

[indyclone25]

but you have to think for 35 bucks you get 4 pliat whip . not the best , i knew that back when i bought mine . i saved money ( not a whole lot ) and bought todds and i am pleased as punch to have that . it is well made whip . maybe not the high end 300 buck plus whip but much better then joes . but joes was a good starter whip , i got back into cracking with it . something i didnt do since i was a teenager . so give joe some credit . without him some people wouldnt have something to use as a costume whip.

[parttime]

indyclone25

I can certainly appreciate where your coming from. This topic is on going on different levels. For instance:
Some roo hide whip makers wouldn't bother with cowhide. Some cowhide/roo hide whip makers think nylon is unacceptable for whips and so on...Bottom line, for every style and/or priced whip there is a customer that will find the quality and performance suitable for their needs at least for a while. This is a good thing.

-Dusty

[jrzjoe]

That picture is not one of my bullwhips, you can check by looking at my ebay. Gee: some of you think a $20 - $30 bullwhip should be compared to all my bullwhips. Looks like people like this guy Louis and others do not read the great feedback I receive only 1 or 2 bad from someone who expected a hundred dollar whip for $20.

[jrzjoe]

Then there is my low cost 4 plait pictured. Good starter whip for $20?? Oh my G d jrzjoe sell cheep crap. After a few years the fall is getting short. Come-on you guy stop complaining. Give the impression that any other maker never received a bad feedback and not sell near as many bullwhips as we do. So one negative every thousand sold make my whips crap. Oh! Yes I make them for other sellers also and they keep buying more to sell of more $$$.

[fifthchamber]

JrzJoe...

Please could you provide fresh sets of photos here, now that show us what you actually use for the whips you sell? The build up process you use?

Take the photos now and upload them here and that'll be okat to show what you use...

Honestly, nothing you've said so far has led me to believe you're a man with a problem telling lies, so I'm just going to assume you've been lying all along, and are still..But I'd be glad to be proven wrong..

Please post some photos showing the whips you DO sell now, and the construction of them?

[jeremym]

SEVERAL people have mentioned buying a whip from you, taking

it apart, and finding the most bizarre things inside. Why should

we take your word over these many many people, that have

taken pictures, and have proof? It's statistically unlikely that many

people are lying, who have PROOF, and you are telling the truth,

which thusfar you have given us NO proof, and dodged EVERY

question that you know there is only ONE answer to, which would

shed you in a negative light.

Prove us wrong. And I don't want to see a single whip, you

could simply make one or two whips the right way, I want solid

proof that what you say it true.

[jeremym]

And also, you said that people expect too much for a $20 whip.

Perhaps they do. How do you explain your lousy $250+ whips?

Just because a whip is made of kangaroo leather doesn't mean

it is automatically good. The taper is lousy, the fall hitch no more

than one hitch in it, the wrist loop leather appears far too thick

to be kangaroo.

PLUS, you advertise "no need to break it in" I quote :

"It has a smooth fluid enough action and enduring liveliness, no need to brake it in, it will Crack right out of the box."

A leather whip that will crack like a broken in whip right out the

box is a RED flag, that means it is plaited loosely. It will only

get looser and looser from that point on, to the point where it

is a hard to control wed noodle, even more so since the taper

is horrible.

Seriously, if your whips are better, take updated pictures!

I would honestly have no problem with you if you advertised your

whips as they are, but the way you advertise them, you make

your whips, even the cheapest ones, as if they some magic whip

that will crack like a $500 whip.

[jrzjoe]

The first $300 whip I sold was to a guy who just sold a Morgan whip on ebay. I got into an argument with him about my $300 whip being as good as the Morgan he sold. I made him a bet that if he purchased my whip and did not like it I would pay the return shipping. That was several months ago and it has not been returned. I did hear from him, Done remember his exact worlds but he did say he liked it, the best whip buy he's ever made.

[jeremym]

If your $300 whips are good, then they are not the ones displayed

on your page. Please show us a picture of the most recent one you

made. I know what a good whip looks like, I know the million little

things it takes for a whip to look good, handle good, etc. The whips

displayed on your $300 whip page will not outperform a Morgan.

And I asked you a question a while back through one of my ebay

accounts about what's in your $40 whips. I got a reply back,

which said it was nylon webbing, exactly what is in the whip

that is half way taken apart above, which you said was not

one of yours.