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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 16, 2006 8:01:49 GMT -5
On COW... i got the ole " Tradition Boot" in the butt for saying I was done with wested do to communication problems.. and peter refusing to do an alteration at MY expense.... I asked for opinions on the US Wings Jackets..... (I saw G-mann's in another thread... it looks nice  ).... but on COW... I was ripped a new one.. both in the thread and through Pm believe it or not.... thus.. i`m here... ( thanks Cactus Jack  ) and am asking the same question....please give up your honest opinion.. and not the one that is expected thanks! Adam ( Ct Jones ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2006 9:18:09 GMT -5
Welcome to the Lounge Connecticut. As far as the US Wings jacket. It depends on how screen accurate you want to be. If you wear an XL or XXL the back panel will be two piece. The L has a one piece back panel. It is a lot heavier than the Wested or G&B Expedition. The other thing about the US Wings. I ordered 2 within 2 months and the Hides used were completely different. The 1st one looked like the regular Brown Indy Jacket. The second had a Pre-Distressed look to it. I guess it is kind of a crap shoot as to which you would recieve. This is the L   This is the XL  I hope this helps. Cheers, G-MANN |
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Post by agent5 on Jul 16, 2006 10:12:36 GMT -5
I looked back through the cow thread and it didn't appear to bad. How were you ripped a new one? Did I miss something or did they delete part of the thread?
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Post by Kt. Templar on Jul 16, 2006 11:38:56 GMT -5
We have plenty of time here. Why don't you tell us from beginning to end what's happening with you and Wested. Peter is usually great to deal with, so something must be getting 'lost in translation'.
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 16, 2006 16:12:03 GMT -5
Agent 5... yea.. I do believe one was deleted.. idk... but I had more of a hard time through PM than anything.. a few people expressed less than productive opinions...
KT.. the story I`ll type up fully another day... today its waaaaay to hot... it doesn`t reach 100 here in CT alot
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 16, 2006 16:15:14 GMT -5
G-mann... do you have a pic of the two piece back panel??... oh and while we are on the subject of the back panel.. I e-mailed Us wings... and they said in Pre-d cowhide... an XL long will have a one piece back panel... whihc the re-iterated about five times... if i still have the e-mail i`ll post it
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Post by IndyBlues on Jul 16, 2006 16:48:58 GMT -5
Cowhide WILL usually have one piece backs,.....cows are alot bigger than lambs and goats.
'Blues
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2006 16:55:41 GMT -5
Thanks, I did forget to mention Here that both mine were Lambskin. Here is the 2 pc. back  Cheers, G-MANN |
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 16, 2006 16:55:46 GMT -5
D'oh!!!... where is my head!! thanks blues
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Post by Kt. Templar on Jul 16, 2006 16:57:32 GMT -5
Cowhide WILL usually have one piece backs,.....cows are alot bigger than lambs and goats. 'Blues  Even Wested has problems getting the larger lamb and goat skins for our "huskier" members, this sometimes accounts for the occasionally longer waiting times for some people. Peter once told me the amount of leather it takes to make an average jacket, it was a surprising amount, something like 30 sq feet. |
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 16, 2006 17:01:54 GMT -5
" huskier.." a good word for us KT.....ohh and G-mann... thanks for that pic!!
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Post by Kt. Templar on Jul 16, 2006 17:10:48 GMT -5
G-mann, interesting thing to me about those jackets is the top of the back panel is cut differently than the Wested and doesn't touch the armhole seams in fact it's diliberately cut in a good inch in on either side. On a lot of Westeds all the seems meet. Or if it's a Agent5 spec the arm seam is an inch lower (or the yoke an inch higher!).
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Post by pitfallharry on Jul 16, 2006 17:15:33 GMT -5
I don't think that split back panel looks that bad to be honest. I know it's not "screen accurate" but who's really going to know besides someone REALLY into all the little details. I love my Wested and I think Peter does seem to do a fine job with meeting the high demands of us fans. The same goes for Steve and the AB. The problem is no matter what you pay your always going to have the chance of something being wrong with it no matter who makes it. Yes, repeated reports of poor quality would get my attention and factor into my choice when deciding to buy a jacket...... Still though you might buy a US Wings and it might be perfect and last forever or you could get a Wested that for some reason falls apart after a year or less. It's hard to tell when your ordering stuff online. That's why I like to buy most of my stuff directly from the store if I can. That way you can try it on and check it out first hand. |
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 16, 2006 17:43:51 GMT -5
right... the back panel isn`t " bad" it's jsut not what most are lookin for... as for the company..again your also right... its sometimes luck... as for US wings... we shall seeeeeeee
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Post by bendingoak on Jul 16, 2006 17:54:27 GMT -5
I would look long and hard at anyone saying that a Wested came apart in a year. We all know how people ( Indy Fans) treat there jackets. Wested is a well made custom jacket that is priced under off the rack leather jackets normally are.
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Post by jweaver on Jul 16, 2006 18:34:45 GMT -5
I would look long and hard at anyone saying that a Wested came apart in a year. We all know how people ( Indy Fans) treat there jackets. Wested is a well made custom jacket that is priced under off the rack leather jackets normally are. Exactly! I've had my Wested goat for over 18 months and is just now begining to age. Regardless of the company a bad one is gonna slip through the cracks everynow and then. Personally I don't care much for the two piece back panel. IMO, its like wearing a tapered fedora as a Raiders hat. |
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Post by IndyBlues on Jul 16, 2006 18:34:47 GMT -5
I agree. I've gone thru about 5 Westeds, some new, some used, some I've distressed. All were top notch. That DOESN'T mean someone else's jacket wasn't a lemon. Crap happens, and we've all seen it. I've had 2 USWings in my possesion. An older vintage cowhide, that wasn't 100% screen accurate, but it was a nicely put together jacket,...and a Cowhide VIP.
Now, the VIP is supposed to be a really nice jacket, and it was well made. It just wasn't Indy in the least bit. It was really thick, and really bulky. The collar stood up like an Elvis jump suit.
I think it all comes down to what YOU like, and what YOU are comfortable wearing. After all, it is your money.
'Blues
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Post by bendingoak on Jul 16, 2006 19:03:17 GMT -5
I think wh you distress these jackets you are asking for trouble.
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Post by IndyBlues on Jul 16, 2006 19:11:18 GMT -5
I think wh you distress these jackets you are asking for trouble. Depends, really. If you use some finess, you won't have any problems. You just can't OVER do it, especially near any threads. You can sand thru stitching very easilly. Distressing ones expensive jacket is NOT for the squeamish, since there is no turning back, once you start. 'Blues |
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Post by Fedora on Jul 17, 2006 11:55:33 GMT -5
I agree. I liken this to my other favorite jacket, the A-2. No serious A-2 jacket ever had a two pieced back. Looks cheap. Fedora |
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Post by pitfallharry on Jul 17, 2006 12:20:46 GMT -5
Boy, I don't know.....
I love my Wested and to me what I paid wasn't cheap by any means. I guess your a slave to your budget so to speak when you get into this type of hobby. I would have to see the US Wings jackets in person to truly be able to judge it well....same goes with every other brand.
To me buying something at these prices and then turning around and distressing them like some people do is kind of wild. I'm the type that would rather let the clothing distress through regular use. Now doing something like adding Fuller's Earth or dust to a hat or jacket to me isn't really "distressing" it because that can be removed pretter easily, I think. Taking knives and sandpaper to the jacket like the wardrobe people did is what I consider distressing.
If I had a choice to make as far as getting the beat up look goes I would rather buy cheap and distress it than buy something at $500 or higher and beat that up.
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 17, 2006 15:22:55 GMT -5
ok I must say this.. I HAVe NEVER and will never blame the mods or hold them accountable for what happens on COW... I`ve read michaelsons post over there...and am apauled... I NEVER made this to sound as though it was a moderators fault.... did I ever express it that way??
Deeply..i don`t know what
Adam ( Ct Jones )
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