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Post by dunleavy on Sept 2, 2010 2:31:58 GMT -5
I haven't seen too much talk about the newer US Wings that have surfaced recently..I just picked up an antique lightweight lambskin for $195.00..If I like the fit, I'll be ordering their Antique Cowhide as well The Cowhide seems like a steal at that price to me..I'll take pics when I get it in! Also, they have surfaced a 'Neil Cooper Original Raiders Pattern' in all sorts of leathers, including striated (spelling?) lambskin..Any thoughts???
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Post by dunleavy on Sept 3, 2010 11:17:24 GMT -5
Just got it in the mail today! GREAT jacket..not the most screen accurate with the black snaps and black/ gun metal d rings for the side straps..great fit..and MUCH better quality over todd's 149$ option... for 195$ its a steal..I will def be picking up the cowhide version as well..I'll take pics when I get in from work!
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Sept 3, 2010 12:13:27 GMT -5
From what I understand, Todd's appeal is a low $149 price and a high screen accuracy index right out of the box with no modifications. On the other hand, and while some swear to it's durability and "wearability," others criticize it for being windbreaker-thin and being not much more than... well... a costume--a high quality (for a costume) $149 costume, but a costume all the same. Me? I'm still spooked by this post. The prices of the U.S. Wings jacket seems to be set to compete against Wested's over the rack jackets. When you factor in the extra cost to have a Wested jacket shipped to the U.S., as well as a potential customs charge (it's the other way around if you live in the U.K., though), and the thing about Wested's OTRs popping stitches, the U.S. Wings Antique Lambskin Lightweight Indy-style Hero Jacket looks like a competitive deal. However, they advertise the $195 price as introductory, with a regular price of $495, which is absurd, since their own regular Signature Series™ Indy-style Lambskin Adventurer Jacket is made in the U.S. (the $195 jacket isn't) and has a $399 sale price with a $499 regular price (though you'll be out significantly more if you happen to be a size 3XL). The fake $495 regular price is probably there just to induce impulse buying and make you think you're getting a good deal, but need to hurry to get it. Still, I'm glad you like your jacket and didn't have a problem with their "blended" (as another U.S. Wings customer here put it) sizing. Me? I'm too vain to do without my two inside pockets.  |
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Post by dunleavy on Sept 3, 2010 12:24:45 GMT -5
i like that 'blended sizing'..good choice of words...and i've read about your fetish with double inside pockets lol.. i am a bigger guy..and US wings is the only brand that would fit.. i wasn't aware that these would be jumping up to $495??? I mean I know they aren't going to stay at 195$ but are they really going to go up to 495?? that IS a little crazy. i own a todd's standard myself as well as a few other items from todd's costumes and he sells GREAT products, but if anyone is even CONSIDERING a todd's jacket..def pick up the US Wings while they're still priced at $195
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Sept 3, 2010 12:46:14 GMT -5
As I stated before (though perhaps not clearly), they probably have no serious intentions of jumping to $495. It just wouldn't make good business sense.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Sept 3, 2010 12:59:18 GMT -5
From what I understand, Todd's appeal is a low $149 price and a high screen accuracy index right out of the box with no modifications. On the other hand, and while some swear to it's durability and "wearability," others criticize it for being windbreaker-thin and being not much more than... well... a costume--a high quality (for a costume) $149 costume, but a costume all the same. Me? I'm still spooked by this post. The prices of the U.S. Wings jacket seems to be set to compete against Wested's over the rack jackets. When you factor in the extra cost to have a Wested jacket shipped to the U.S., as well as a potential customs charge (it's the other way around if you live in the U.K., though), and the thing about Wested's OTRs popping stitches, the U.S. Wings Antique Lambskin Lightweight Indy-style Hero Jacket looks like a competitive deal. However, they advertise the $195 price as introductory, with a regular price of $495, which is absurd, since their own regular Signature Series™ Indy-style Lambskin Adventurer Jacket is made in the U.S. (the $195 jacket isn't) and has a $399 sale price with a $499 regular price (though you'll be out significantly more if you happen to be a size 3XL). The fake $495 regular price is probably there just to induce impulse buying and make you think you're getting a good deal, but need to hurry to get it. Still, I'm glad you like your jacket and didn't have a problem with their "blended" (as another U.S. Wings customer here put it) sizing. Me? I'm too vain to do without my two inside pockets. I agree that sort of fake pricing is illegal over here. If you want to sell at a reduced price and call it a reduced price, you have to sell it for at least 30 days first. Maybe only at one location but it's the law. Putting a big sticker price on and then slashing it is not allowed. |
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Post by dunleavy on Sept 3, 2010 13:56:21 GMT -5
Well the cowhide and antique lambskin ones in particular have been the $195 'introductory price' since early or mid July..and here we are on the 3rd of September.. I see them going up to $249-$300 if anything. If the cowhide version went up to $249 tomorrow, I would buy it.
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Sept 3, 2010 15:08:13 GMT -5
If the cowhide version went up to $249 tomorrow, I would buy it. Shhhh.... Don't give them ideas. I'm sure, based on past experiences, that they're browsing these threads. |
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Post by drhenryjonesjr1899 on Sept 3, 2010 22:06:33 GMT -5
Shhhh.... Don't give them ideas. I'm sure, based on past experiences, that they're browsing these threads. Wouldn't doubt it along with other people.  But, back on topic... Cost of leather is supposed to go up due to supply and demand of the new fall fashion. |
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Post by Kt. Templar on Sept 4, 2010 2:41:03 GMT -5
You don't see any other vendor making a song and dance about leather price increases.
Even if it is true, it's still being used slightly cynically as a marketing ploy.
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Post by grahamson on Sept 9, 2010 9:09:39 GMT -5
You don't see any other vendor making a song and dance about leather price increases. Even if it is true, it's still being used slightly cynically as a marketing ploy. I checked US Wings website in the spring when these jackets were available for pre-order. I'm not from the US, and I noticed this on their Return Policy page: All sales shipped outside the USA are FINAL*. No refunds/exchanges on items shipped outside the USA. Buyer beware. I don't even look at the US Wings website any more because of this. On the other hand, I bought a jacket from Wested last year (I'm also not in the UK) and had no problems returning it. I ended up with a washed goat 80s fit off the peg raiders jacket - love it. High Regards, Grahamson. |
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Sept 9, 2010 12:30:32 GMT -5
U.S. Wings has never appeared to me to be a really viable option if you live in the U.K., though if you live in the U.S., you'll probably have an easier, faster, and less expensive time returning a jacket to U.S. Wings to get a refund than you would with Wested.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Sept 9, 2010 13:23:10 GMT -5
$80, shipping and no credit cards for non US buyers kinda stings too to add to the 'injury' of the 'no returns bit.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Sept 10, 2010 21:52:03 GMT -5
Going back to the earlier post on Todd's jacket about it not being too durable... May I make the logical statement that the only people who thought the Todd's jackets weren't durable were the only ones who didn't have the guts to try to abuse them? Wheras the people who DID abuse them said that they held up very well to the abuse. I'm looking forward to abusing my Todd's jacket, when I get around to buying Indy Gear.  Steven |
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Post by dunleavy on Sept 13, 2010 14:37:48 GMT -5
posted jacket and downtowner pics in my downtowner thread! check them out
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Post by New Yorker Jones on Sept 17, 2010 9:46:43 GMT -5
I received "my" NZ lamb which I was told was not in stock (and wouldn't be for weeks) when I actually paid for the Antique Cowhide. I also did not get the web belt that is on the packing slip/invoice nor the Cooper jacket dvd Myke said would be on the order. The lining also is thin and makes a crinkle noise. The zipper almost looks silver, definitely not brass. I noticed other jackets have stripes across the back but not as pronounced as mine. Doesn't look right. I sent it back in exchange for the USW AC, hopefully that will be okay or that is going back too. BTW I noticed the label is different with no US flag, which I assume its made out of the country. s5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/JimCem99/USW%20Indy%20NZ%20lamb%20jacket/ |
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Sept 17, 2010 10:15:18 GMT -5
Ouch! Did somebody leave the jacket on the grill before they shipped it to you? That's really bad service.  Steven |
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Post by New Yorker Jones on Sept 17, 2010 10:28:47 GMT -5
Ouch! Did somebody leave the jacket on the grill before they shipped it to you? That's really bad service. Steven Actually according to one girl and Myke at USW, that's how they're supposed to look  . I don't know why the US made non-long jackets came out nice with no stripes and the Chinese made long jackets have stripes. I would've kept it if I knew by distressing (not that I should have to) by wearing in rain and/or putting Pecard's on would get the stripes to go away. |
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Post by dunleavy on Sept 17, 2010 12:17:54 GMT -5
wow that's an odd looking jacket...obviously not made in the US..the NZ lamb that I ordered doesn't look anything like that...mine actually looks distressed not like a burger. I also have the american flag tag, a brass zipper and a great soft lining.
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Post by Biker Jacket Jones on Sept 17, 2010 13:04:54 GMT -5
Looks like you had your own flying tigers jacket for relatively not much money. ...what? Don't look it me that way! You know as well as I do that New Yorker Jones (name change confusion ahead) looks like a tiger! But, still, I've seen detailed photos of people who have ordered the Antique Lambskin Lightweight Indy-style Hero Jacket, and I've never seen "grilling" remotely resembling that before, so I don't know why they would say that's normal. They must have gotten a bad batch of leather from wherever they get that stuff. They do say this, though: "The jacket is hand-aged to achieve its distinctive antiqued finish, resulting in subtle color variations throughout, so no two jackets will look exactly alike." Those jackets are China made from what I know. They're all too excited to declare it when it is U.S. made. You'll also notice that the Indy-style Adventurer page lacks the import-free zone sticker. Their U.S. made Indy-style Adventurer Jackets are listed together on one page, and are labeled as Signature Series™ Indy-style Adventurer Jackets. As for the belt, there was probably confusion surrounding that little bit. Back in July, they had a promotion that all Indy-style Adventurer Jackets came with free webbing belts and free shipping. That promotion ended in August. I'm not sure when you ordered your jacket. The DVD thing was an epic fail, though. They always make sure to include that from what I've read, so that you didn't receive it was a mistake on their part. |
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Post by Noah on Sept 17, 2010 19:40:42 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your experience. I'm not sure why your jacket is the way it is. Those stripes look a bit much.
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Post by dunleavy on Sept 18, 2010 0:59:56 GMT -5
He was told that the Long sizes all looked like that..which means Longer sizes are china made.. thats pretty dumb.. my NZ lamb looks NOTHING like that and has a really nice aged look to it.. also, there are different tags in our NZ lambs.. I have the US flag tag.. their regular sizes must be made in the US
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Post by New Yorker Jones on Sept 22, 2010 18:27:26 GMT -5
How long should an exchange take? They received the striped NZ on Monday AM and they've yet to send out the AC that was supposed to go out 2 weeks ago. When I spoke to Sarge Monday afternoon, he said it would go out the next day.
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Post by Stefana Jones on Sept 23, 2010 22:40:28 GMT -5
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Sept 23, 2010 23:54:20 GMT -5
Be sure to post some pics of it! Steven |
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