MaX
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Post by MaX on Aug 25, 2010 2:42:13 GMT -5
Uh oh.. Well, I guess I'd be able to send it back if they mess it up bad.
Cool, I'll look into that.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 25, 2010 10:54:00 GMT -5
According to Todd, the movie buckles weren't brass, they were Steel that was painted to look like brass. So a Prop-Accurate Web Belt would be a Steel Painted Brass Belt (Cheaper, too). Steven
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MaX
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Post by MaX on Aug 25, 2010 10:57:43 GMT -5
PJ, yea I rad that too. But I read that it's seriously shine. But that can be dealt with...!
I updated the first post to reflect how far I am in my mission. Please don't make me regret my purchases. ;D
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Post by Noah on Aug 25, 2010 12:35:35 GMT -5
The brass buckles I think are stronger and the gold color doesn't tarnish like it does on the gold-colored steel (unless you like it to fade). The color on my steel belt is slightly coming off, but mostly on the back of the buckle. Brass isn't SA, but neither is a super whipholder and no grooves. So the SA way to go is steel, but I prefer brass.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 25, 2010 13:24:05 GMT -5
According to Todd, the movie buckles weren't brass, they were Steel that was painted to look like brass. So a Prop-Accurate Web Belt would be a Steel Painted Brass Belt (Cheaper, too). Steven I think plated rather then painted. The Raiders zips have been reported to have been nickel or aluminium painted bronze/brass. Solid brass buckles have a acrylic coating on them, you can remove this and the buckles will tarnish nicely then. Bright shiny buckles look wrong IMO.
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Post by Noah on Aug 25, 2010 13:27:50 GMT -5
I think plated rather then painted. The Raiders zips have been reported to have been nickel or aluminium painted bronze/brass. Solid brass buckles have a acrylic coating on them, you can remove this and the buckles will tarnish nicely then. Bright shiny buckles look wrong IMO. Indeed. The brass buckles don't really tarnish on their own. My steel buckle has a bit, and my brass buckle hasn't.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 25, 2010 13:31:02 GMT -5
I'd like to know how this acrylic coating can be removed. Acid?
Steven
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Post by MaX on Aug 25, 2010 13:44:06 GMT -5
Where would you get a brass painted steel buckled web belt? Neither Todd's nor Magnoli has it. I wonder what Wade's brass plated belt is plated on. For the buckle I was just going for the brass, whether plated or not, because that's what shows in the movie. If the inside is steel, that would be brilliant, but if not, it's not a big loss, I think. Noah, since the buckle is brass painted/plated in the movie, wouldn't a brass buckle be more SA? Kt, yea definitely not going for the shiny look.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 25, 2010 14:44:37 GMT -5
I'd like to know how this acrylic coating can be removed. Acid? Steven It's a thin varnish like coating. I've burned it off in the past. Make sure you are in a well ventilated area! The heating of the metal will help it dull down too. You can also use very fine wire wool or wet and dry sandpaper,. but you'll end up with some scratches, might be the start of the distressing. I've also removed the coating and just left them out in the garden for a few months, the fact that the backing seems to rust indicates that there is some ferrous metal in there.
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Post by MaX on Aug 25, 2010 15:31:22 GMT -5
The heat-vinegar-weather looks very good! Like it was with Indy while he was lost in a rain forrest for a week! But if it rusts, that can't be good if it comes in contact with the skin.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 25, 2010 15:40:49 GMT -5
Where would you get a brass painted steel buckled web belt? Neither Todd's nor Magnoli has it. I wonder what Wade's brass plated belt is plated on. Todd's Web Belt has Brass COLORED Steel as an option, and it says nothing about whether or not its plated or painted. Steven
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Post by MaX on Aug 25, 2010 15:46:45 GMT -5
It says GOLD colored steel. I know it's not actual gold, but it doesn't say that it's brass. It does say in the description that it's "like the ones used on screen", though.
Kt, the buckles in your pic, are those all brass?
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 25, 2010 15:54:44 GMT -5
The flap on the belt gripper is stamped "Solid Brass" but it is obvious that only that flap and the front face is solid brass. The back piece appears to be steel.
All 3 are from Todd.
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Post by MaX on Aug 25, 2010 16:02:21 GMT -5
Thanks! If I do get gloves from Todd's I'll get one of each belt, then I can try some stuff out. I'll have to get the shine out of the "gold" belt.
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Post by Noah on Aug 25, 2010 19:33:16 GMT -5
Noah, since the buckle is brass painted/plated in the movie, wouldn't a brass buckle be more SA? I guess a steel buckle is more SA, than plated(or painted) gold to look brass. But then you might as well just go with brass. That's what I'd suggest.
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 25, 2010 19:37:21 GMT -5
The Steel Buckle is more PROP-Accurate. Materials used affect its status as Prop-Accurate. Steven
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Post by MaX on Aug 26, 2010 1:23:43 GMT -5
Well, technically a steel buckle wouldn't be prop accurate unless it was brass painted. The paint is still part of that prop. So a steel-no-brass would be as prop accurate as a brass-no-steel, in terms of "materials used in the prop". And in that comparison I think the brass-no-steel wins because it's also SA.
I'll have to try my way around them. Good thing they're not expensive.
On a side note, when I told you guys not to make me regret my purchases, I didn't mean don't comment at all. Is that a case of "if you don't have anything nice to say..." ;D
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 26, 2010 10:03:07 GMT -5
Sorry, I just thought the gold paint was implied. My bad. Steven
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Post by MaX on Aug 26, 2010 11:31:27 GMT -5
Ah, of course. I should've known.
It still confuses me that he calls it gold paint. It probably isn't gold. And why not use brass paint?
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 26, 2010 12:11:26 GMT -5
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 26, 2010 12:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by MaX on Aug 26, 2010 12:34:48 GMT -5
Nice read. Lucky guy, getting to try on the stuff! Too bad it's from Doom, it would've been great to have those pictures of the Raiders outfit. And the jacket wasn't wested, that surprised me. But how could he not check what the label was?! PJ, thanks, that's exactly what I did...! But thanks for the effort! You're right, I don't read french, praised be Google!
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Post by Pennsylvania Jones on Aug 26, 2010 12:53:30 GMT -5
Well, if anybody else wants to read it, they can now. Yeah, the Screen-Used Raiders Gear would've been more helpful for this thread. Maybe a few quick words from Todd should clear things up. I think I'll PM him the next time I get the chance. Steven
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Post by Kt. Templar on Aug 26, 2010 13:08:31 GMT -5
Sorry for trying to help.
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Post by MaX on Aug 26, 2010 13:17:38 GMT -5
Sorry for trying to help. It may not have helped me in this special case, but it's still interesting, and a good read. I really appreciate all your time, I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to brush you off. Please keep the help coming.
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