Bernardo IS Here!!

[Tyrloch]

Hey,

Is Bernardo a member over here? If so, I'd like to try to get him to post a pic of the roo whip he made me recently. Mostly because I'm computer-retarded and can't do it myself.

~Jace

[Ragingblues]

Just click the members tab in the top menu, which is listed in alphabetical order. I don't recall Bernardo ever joining here, atleast not under that name anyway.

Ken

[Tyrloch]

Well, I don't think he would've joined under any other name. I'll email him & tell him to do so, thanks.

~Jace

[bernardodc]

Hey Everyone

I just joined in! ...this seems like a very nice, informative and friendly Indy forum.

Here are a few pics of one of my latest Raiders whips for Jace. Its what I call a "Jace Special" Raiders. These pics were taken by Jace himself. He distressed the whip a bit, using his own propietary techniques . Hope you like it

Regards,

Bernardo

[Deleted]

Welcome to the Lounge Bernardo

Very happy to see you join us here. It's a great group of folks that contribute to help make this a fun place.

Beautiful Whip. Well done

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Tyrloch]

Bernardo,

Thanks for posting the pics for me, since I lack the ability to do so! I had wanted the guys (& gals) here at IL to see the terrific job you had done on this whip. BTW, it's a 9 foot roohide with a 3+ foot fall, in case anyone was wondering...

~Jace

[Kt. Templar]

Bernado welcome, we see far too little of your work. I think the guys who are lucky enough to have an example of your work guard them too jealously from hungry eyes. The eveness of your plaiting and smoothness of the whip itself is truly beautiful.

Regards

Kt.

[Ragingblues]

Welcome to Indy Lounge Bernardo!

Pagey spoke highly of your work, which looks to be dead on from those photos you posted. BTW, you are linked in the whip section "Where To Buy" thread, and main "Where To Buy" section as well. Thanks to Pagey, you will also have a section in the new gear site which is coming soon.

Feel free to make yourself at home and post on whatever topic comes across your mind.

Ken

[bernardodc]

Thanks guys for the warm welcome and the kind words!

Pagey told me about this forum a while ago. He recently mentioned it, so I came back to check what was new here, and voila, Jace needed me to post the pics of his whip. It was a happy coincidence.

I finally finished writing the copy for my website, so I guess in a few weeks time it will be online. My brother is designing it, and I hope he'll be able to finish it soon.

Ken,

I was glad to see I am included in the lists of suppliers. Thanks. I'll try to post as much as time allows. I have to write to Pagey to say thanks as well

Regards,

Bernardo

[pitfallharry]

Bernardo it's great to have you here. I really like your whips. Very cool stuff. Can't wait to see more of your work.

[GCR]

Awesome looking whips, Bernardo!

Seeing pics like these (and pics of some of Pagey's work) makes me wish I had waited and done more research before buying my whip from WSP last year. I'm not really much of a "whip guy" so buying a good Indy whip was more or less a one time purchase for me. Seeing awesome whips like this make me feel like I blew my money on the WSP.

Excellent work, anyways! Oh, and welcome to the Lounge!

-GCR

[Tyrloch]

GCR,

That's not necessarily true -- As far as I know, the Indy whips made for WSP are made by Paul Nolan, Joe Strain & Russell Schultz -- all very fine, talented whip makers. So while your whip may or may not be lacking in the SA category, it is still probably one hell of a whip. I've had whip from all three of these makers (4 including Bernardo) and they were all top notch. Just do what the rest of us do -- buy a whip, find some reason why it's not EXACTLY right so you justify buying another, then pick a different maker & purchase! Then rinse & repeat! This is usually how we all wind up with more whips than we really need. Either that, or we decide that we need at least one is just about every length imagineable!!

~Jace

[GCR]

tyrloch said:

GCR,

That's not necessarily true -- As far as I know, the Indy whips made for WSP are made by Paul Nolan, Joe Strain & Russell Schultz -- all very fine, talented whip makers. So while your whip may or may not be lacking in the SA category, it is still probably one hell of a whip. I've had whip from all three of these makers (4 including Bernardo) and they were all top notch. Just do what the rest of us do -- buy a whip, find some reason why it's not EXACTLY right so you justify buying another, then pick a different maker & purchase! Then rinse & repeat! This is usually how we all wind up with more whips than we really need. Either that, or we decide that we need at least one is just about every length imagineable!!

~Jace

Yeah Tyrloch, it's more the lack of certain SA details that drive me nuts (I am one of those poor souls afflicted with "Screenaccuratitis")...it's a fine whip, and it does what it's supposed to do (and it does it well) but the design of the turk's head knot and the color aren't exactly what I wanted. I know the color will darken with time and use, so that doesn't bother me as much (although I had ordered it in medium brown but they were out of stock on that color, so I ended up with natural tan). Considering I spent $450 bucks on this whip, I wish it had been exactly what I wanted right from the start, because with whips priced the way they are, I can't justify buying another anytime soon, unless I have a few awesome months at work or I hit the lottery.

Bernardo, out of curiousity, how much is this Raiders whip pictured here? If I were to get another whip, something like this would be my first choice.

-GCR

[Tyrloch]

GCR,

If SA is one of you primary objectives, then WSP is NOT the way to go. It's better to deal with a whipmaker directly to get certain specs on an order. Bernardo is great with making a whip the way you want it made, Strain & Nolan are good to deal with too. Plus, when ordering straight from the whipmaker, there is no mark-up added onto the price of the whip, as with WSP. Good luck saving up for another whip!!

~Jace

[GCR]

tyrloch said:

GCR,

If SA is one of you primary objectives, then WSP is NOT the way to go. It's better to deal with a whipmaker directly to get certain specs on an order. Bernardo is great with making a whip the way you want it made, Strain & Nolan are good to deal with too. Plus, when ordering straight from the whipmaker, there is no mark-up added onto the price of the whip, as with WSP. Good luck saving up for another whip!!

~Jace

Yeah, see...I've been in this hobby a long, long time, but I've never really been "into" the whole "whip" aspect of it. Granted, now that I have a whip worth cracking, I have plenty of fun doing it, but I've always concerned myself with some of the other pieces of gear (hats mostly) and, like a newbie, I made the mistake of buying a whip without doing all the research I should have done, first.

Info like this would have saved me from making that mistake last year, but oh well. I still like my WSP, and like I said, it cracks great...but for many reasons, it spends more time sitting on a shelf as part of a display (along with most of the other pieces of gear that don't see regular use, like the MkVII, the gunbelt, holster, etc.) rather than being used as a whip should. Oh well, no big deal...serves me right for not doing my homework!

-GCR

[Tyrloch]

Ah, I get it. For me, the whole hobby started back in '81 after seeing ROTLA at age 11, and just having to get my hands on a bullwhip! I had some interest in the jacket & the hat, but it was mostly the whip. I actually only got into trying to acquire some of the other gear recently. I've always loved everything about the character, but it all started with the whip...

~Jace

[pitfallharry]

I own an 8ft WSP and the color started out natural. In the short time of that I've owned though it's darkened up quite a bit. When I first got it I was a little concerned that color wasn't going to darken. It eventually did and I love the color of it. I would probably order the same color again from WSP.

I don't have a problem with the SA of the whip because the differences are very minor. I mean the only people that are going to ever notice are the guys that are REAL sticklers for that type of thing. I mean if someone ever came up to me in person and said "Your Turks Head Knot is to small" I'd be like "So what?"

My only complaint with the WSP is the price. I paid $400 for mine and I could have easily gotten just as good of whip for a lot less from some other vendors around here. Now I know. Right now I'm also not getting my money's worth out of it because of the lousy weather. Once it gets nice again and stays nice I'll be right back out there learning how to use it.

Down the road if I ever go to buy another one I'm definitely going to be looking at the whips vendors like Bernardo and the others are offering.

I could have gotten a 9 or 10 ft whip for the price I paid for my 8ft whip!

[bernardodc]

GCR,

My current prices for roo Indy whips (12 plait) in natural tan are:

8 foot $330

9 foot $ 380

10 foot $ 400

If I find a good source for high quality kip (and I think I just did) I'll offer again my Indy whips in that leather, with a somewhat lower cost compared to kangaroo whips.

Thanks again to all,

Bernardo