Don't stick a sticker on your G&B unless....

[COWBOY]

A little peeved right now. I was wearing my less than 4 week old G&B to a meeting today. I was given a peel and stick name tag (like you get at conferences, etc) which I stuck on to my left chest of my Expo. An hour later as I was getting into my truck, I pulled it off and to my disappointment the finish came off with the sticker. While it is only minor, there is still unfinished/dyed leather exposed. Mind you, you will not see it in a pic, but catch it in the right light and it is UGLY!!!! I thought that these coats were chrome dyed and tougher than the Wested hides? If this is the case, why would a sticker be able to pull off the finish?


Fuming in my office.....

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I could only guess that the glue on the nametag has a chemical content that may have bonded with or penetrated the surface of the leather. Sorry to hear the news.

Are you certain it is not glue residue left on the leather?

Cheers,
G-MANN

[Kt. Templar]

cowboy said:

A little peeved right now. I was wearing my less than 4 week old G&B to a meeting today. I was given a peel and stick name tag (like you get at conferences, etc) which I stuck on to my left chest of my Expo. An hour later as I was getting into my truck, I pulled it off and to my disappointment the finish came off with the sticker. While it is only minor, there is still unfinished/dyed leather exposed. Mind you, you will not see it in a pic, but catch it in the right light and it is UGLY!!!! I thought that these coats were chrome dyed and tougher than the Wested hides? If this is the case, why would a sticker be able to pull off the finish?


Fuming in my office.....

Indeed there is a thin layer of some type of varnish or clear coat on some leathers. Peter showed me a jacket that someone had purposely damaged just by sticking a strip of scotch tape down the back and then peeling it off. After a short while the clear varnish comes right off with the tape. .

[pitfallharry]

Out of all the people out there that own these jackets this is the first complaint I've heard of this nature. Is it possible that maybe you received a defective jacket? Maybe whatever process they use didn't take and that's why the glue was able to pull off the dye.

I'm REALLY sorry to hear about this.....especially with a jacket as expensive as this.

[COWBOY]

kttemplar said:

cowboy said:

A little peeved right now. I was wearing my less than 4 week old G&B to a meeting today. I was given a peel and stick name tag (like you get at conferences, etc) which I stuck on to my left chest of my Expo. An hour later as I was getting into my truck, I pulled it off and to my disappointment the finish came off with the sticker. While it is only minor, there is still unfinished/dyed leather exposed. Mind you, you will not see it in a pic, but catch it in the right light and it is UGLY!!!! I thought that these coats were chrome dyed and tougher than the Wested hides? If this is the case, why would a sticker be able to pull off the finish?


Fuming in my office.....

Indeed there is a thin layer of some type of varnish or clear coat on some leathers. Peter showed me a jacket that someone had purposely damaged just by sticking a strip of scotch tape down the back and then peeling it off. After a short while the clear varnish comes right off with the tape. .

HMMMMM.....Maybe. It has definitely lost some color(it is now that duller natural hide color) I guess I will have to do some more investigation.....

OK, I know that we all covet the Distressed IJ, but I guess that if it is in fact the dye failing, what will it do when I really put it through the ringer?

[Ragingblues]

I hate to say this, but the answer is very simple and has nothing to do with the jacket manufacturer whatsoever. Glue leaves residue on smooth surfaces. Glass, tile, metal, vinyl, leather, etc... all would have done the same thing.

Unfortunately, what you have hear is simply glue residue on the leather surface. The clear coat that ALL leathers used in garments are sealed with, hasn't failed or even been harmed in any way here. This is the shine that everyone rubs off their new jackets with alchohol, and they all have it. However, in removing the glue residue you will absolutely be dulling it down, because alchohol is going to have to be used. So, in essence.... you just started the distressing process since you'll have to clean off the residue.

This has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the jacket at all, since non are going to guarantee the leather itself. G&B has a construction warranty that covers just that; sewing & zippers. Nobody would dare to lose so much money as to try and warranty the leather against whatever people might do to it.

Had you put the sticker on a cotton shirt for example, the residue would have only grabbed hold of the tips of the fibers and never really had a chance to tack up. But, being pressed onto a smooth surface and given a hour to bake onto it with your body heat... instant problem. I wish there was a better answer, but that's really the cold hard reality. Thg good news is, you are on your way to having a broken in looking jacket faster than you intended, but it's still a good look.

I'm very sorry to hear about your situation, but it's not definitely not something that any leather jacket company could or would advertise their product to be impervious to.

Ken

[COWBOY]

admin said:

I hate to say this, but the answer is very simple and has nothing to do with the jacket manufacturer whatsoever. Glue leaves residue on smooth surfaces. Glass, tile, metal, vinyl, leather, etc... all would have done the same thing.

Unfortunately, what you have hear is simply glue residue on the leather surface. The clear coat that ALL leathers used in garments are sealed with, hasn't failed or even been harmed in any way here. This is the shine that everyone rubs off their new jackets with alchohol, and they all have it. However, in removing the glue residue you will absolutely be dulling it down, because alchohol is going to have to be used. So, in essence.... you just started the distressing process since you'll have to clean off the residue.

This has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the jacket at all, since non are going to guarantee the leather itself. G&B has a construction warranty that covers just that; sewing & zippers. Nobody would dare to lose so much money as to try and warranty the leather against whatever people might do to it.

Had you put the sticker on a cotton shirt for example, the residue would have only grabbed hold of the tips of the fibers and never really had a chance to tack up. But, being pressed onto a smooth surface and given a hour to bake onto it with your body heat... instant problem. I wish there was a better answer, but that's really the cold hard reality. Thg good news is, you are on your way to having a broken in looking jacket faster than you intended, but it's still a good look.

I'm very sorry to hear about your situation, but it's not definitely not something that any leather jacket company could or would advertise their product to be impervious to.

Ken

OK, problem solved! Thanks Sir......I will now change my topic name to reflect the truth.....The Rookie G&B Cowboy ;D

[Ragingblues]

First off, let me apologize if my reply came out sounding too "matter of fact". I was typing while at work, with the window minimized to a very small size. I would open and close it as people walked by, and tried to continue my train of thought. I ended up copying and pasting a few lines into other paragraphs and in doing so, it seems I completely deleted my intro. You know, the obviously important one that made the rest not seem so rude.

I meant to start off by saying I was sorry for your unfortunate turn of events. I then wanted to point out that I didn't the jacket had sustained any strutural injury, though the clean up job would most likely do so. I was trying to look on the bright side in that almost nobody is brave enough to deshine a brand new G&B Expedition (except Kaplan of course ), so you would wind up with a very cool jacket regardless.

Sorry again for the missing text and any possible attitude that was implied because of it. That was certainly not my intention here, so I do hope you understand.

Ken

[agent5]

Time to distress the G&B, man. Even it all out.

This happened to me at DragonCon when some dumb bitch stuck a G.I.Joe sticker on the collar of my Wested. Took the finish right off. Sucked, but at least it was already heavily distressed.

[COWBOY]

admin said:

First off, let me apologize if my reply came out sounding too "matter of fact". I was typing while at work, with the window minimized to a very small size. I would open and close it as people walked by, and tried to continue my train of thought. I ended up copying and pasting a few lines into other paragraphs and in doing so, it seems I completely deleted my intro. You know, the obviously important one that made the rest not seem so rude.

I meant to start off by saying I was sorry for your unfortunate turn of events. I then wanted to point out that I didn't the jacket had sustained any strutural injury, though the clean up job would most likely do so. I was trying to look on the bright side in that almost nobody is brave enough to deshine a brand new G&B Expedition (except Kaplan of course ), so you would wind up with a very cool jacket regardless.

Sorry again for the missing text and any possible attitude that was implied because of it. That was certainly not my intention here, so I do hope you understand.

Ken

Hey Boss, Absolutely no reason to apologize, (I still accept it though ) As I did not take any offense at all. In fact you are all right in your evaluation...When I re-read my post, I realized that in my haste to post my surprise, i really came off sounding like a weanie...Guess that is why it is said, "You should be slow to speak"

I know all too well about working and typing.......If my staff only knew that the boss was an Indy Chatter Junkie....My image would be completely ruined.... Thanks all.

PS....IT IS THE FINISH!!!! -COWBOY