IndyBlues Jacket II

[IndyBlues]

Ok folks, here it is, one of the very first "Coyles" jackets
hot off the drawing board. I basically opened it up, tried it on,
and took a bunch of pics. I'll hold off giving any form of review
until I inspect it more closely.

In the meantime, here are the pics. These were taken in
direct sunlight.

Front


Back


Cargo Pocket and Flap


Side Adjuster


Collar(down)


Collar(up)


Here are some with me wearing it, again, direct sunlight:















Just a few things I noticed right out of the box. This cowhide is very thin, and very light.
As you can see in the pics, it drapes extremely well. The weight feels
like I'm wearing a heavy long sleeve shirt, as opposed to a leather jacket.
This is actually a good thing, if we're talking about film accuracy.
The collar seems extremely large, but then again, I'm not sure what the Raiders collar size should really be,..have to wait for Agent 5 to chime in.

I will keep looking this thing over, to give a more complete review.
Until then, enjoy the pics. Sorry for the slight tilt in a few of them,
my new bride is NO photographer.
Mike

[rick5150]

The jacket is kind of big. All around, but most notably the sleeve openings...

[West]

I have to agree with what Rick said, it does look big. I dug out the pic of you in your Expo for comparison. It almost looks as if some of features on this jacket are slightly larger/exaggerated, like the collar and the pockets, than they should be. Maybe it's just me? Maybe it's just the angle? (Gotta forgive me as this has already been a long week and it's only TUESDAY!!!) Either way, I can't wait to hear... Er read your full review 'Blues!

[Kt. Templar]

The leather is nice, looks like it needs to need lived in a bit, or a alcohol wipe.

I'm not convinced with that strap buckle at least not with straps that long.

But the jacket is too loose overall. see you weren't a XXL afterall!

[IndyBlues]

Yeah, I tend to agree the overall size is a bit large, and long on me. I have been losing weight, but not really anything since I went over my measurements with Todd. I definitely haven't gotten any shorter. Hopefully Todd will have a look at the pics, and he can better judge what needs to be changed.
'Blues

[agent5]

I like it, Mike. Give it a chance to break in. I especially like the texture/grain.

Jesus, man...you're half the man you used to be.

[IndyBlues]

agent5 said:

Jesus, man...you're half the man you used to be.

HAHA, ;D Yeah, I used to be a fat bastard, ...now I'm just a husky bastard,......can't wait til the day I can just be a regular bastard.
Mike

[winstonwolf359]

NICE jacket! I really like the leather; broken in, but not worn out. Seems perfectly lightweight and drapes very well right out of the box! I definately think the cowhide was the right choice!

I think the proportions of the jacket seem right, it's just a little on the big side. Todd's XXL is supposed to be about a 48, right? I wonder if he scaled up a little too far?

[pagey]

Hmmm- I'm not as impressed as I thought I was going to be. The general fit definitely seems too big and I'm not really keen on the colour. The grain is nice, but the overall look is not nearly as good as that pic of your Expedition. Are you going to hang on to it or send it back for a smaller size?

[IndyBlues]

winstonwolf359 said:

NICE jacket! I really like the leather; broken in, but not worn out. Seems perfectly lightweight and drapes very well right out of the box! I definately think the cowhide was the right choice!

I think the proportions of the jacket seem right, it's just a little on the big side. Todd's XXL is supposed to be about a 48, right? I wonder if he scaled up a little too far?

I'm not too sure. I wear a size 46-48, depending on the jacket.

pagey said:

Hmmm- I'm not as impressed as I thought I was going to be. The general fit definitely seems too big and I'm not really keen on the colour. The grain is nice, but the overall look is not nearly as good as that pic of your Expedition. Are you going to hang on to it or send it back for a smaller size?

I have contacted Todd, and asked him to look at the pics here, to get his input.
'Blues

[pitfallharry]

Overall I like it but I have to agree the jacket is just to loose and the pockets, sleeve opening and the collar seem to be a little bit to big. I don't know if ordering a size smaller would help or not.

I do like the leather and the color. I think it looks great in that area.

With some slight adjustments the jacket would be perfect as far as I'm concerned.

[todd]

Mike,

Thanks for the e-mail! My first impression is that the jacket is way too big for you. I'm not sure why if the measurements are the same as your expo... hmmmm...

The cuffs looked big to me (the whole jacket looked big to me!) We had our UPS driver try it on, and it looked great on him, so we sent it off to you. Looking at the shoulders, the whole jacket is about 2" too wide for you.

Even though the size might be similar to your expedition, the leather is much looser and hangs differently. It's not going to fit, look, and feel the same.

If you would like to send it back, we will start over with your measurements and go from there. Of course, we will do your replacement immediately. I think it might be a mistake to try to go from other people's jacket sizes. What we're saying now is to send us your chest, waist, height, and sleeve length (back of neck over shoulder to cuff) and we will put you in the best size. We're not going to try to match up S, M, L, XL, etc. We're doing chest sizes (40, 42, 44, etc) and short, medium, and long versions. So, in effect, we have 27 patterns here. So, we'll take your measurement and match you up with the right combo.

Oh, a note on the collar. It looks big on you like the rest of the jacket. When it's lying on the ground it looks in proportion. Just too big. But... in addition, it takes a while for it to get the "roll" in it that makes it scrunch up around the neck instead of lying out flat. Once that sets in it looks much different.

And the cuffs - they are too big. There was a mistake in cutting. I noticed it before we sent it, but... like I said, it looked good on the UPS man, so I thought they might look good on you. He is much more "portly" than you and the size seemed right. After seeing your pictures, the definitely don't work for you. We'll re-work them before we put it on the "rack" for someone else.

Sorry for the let-down, but we'll get you fixed up in no time. Send me your actual measurements and let me pick out the right pattern for you.

[pitfallharry]

Now that's customer service!

[IndyBlues]

Thank you, Todd. I will send you an email with all the info you need, and I will get this jacket back in the mail tomorrow morning. I will ship it UPS, and send you the tracking number.
Thanks a bunch.
Mike

[todd]

Sorry we didn't hit a "home run" with this one. Hopefully going by measurements will help solve this problem.

Todd

[GCR]

Congrats on the new jacket, 'Blues.

While I LOVE the grain and texture of the leather, and the color is very nice too, there are a lot of things that make me think this jacket is a size (or two) too big. Between the VERY big collar, the overly large pockets, the extra long side-straps and the overall long and "baggy" fit, I'd say you should move down a size at least. Everything looks pretty good when the jacket is laying on the ground, but it seems out of proportion when you have it on. It's a great looking jacket, to be sure, but the next size down would probably look PERFECT.

-GCR

EDIT: Wow, I really need to stop taking my sweet-ass time posting. While I was typing this up, I see Todd chimed in and got the whole thing resolved in a snap! Awesome customer service there, Mr. Coyle!!! And IB, glad this is working out for you, I think the change is size will do wonders. Can't wait to see your new one!!!

[IndyBlues]

No apologies necessary, Todd. Kind of tough figureing out sizes for people you've never seen. I'm glad the pics helped you see what needed to be changed.
'Blues

[Kaplan]

all sizing stuff aside, it really is a beautiful jacket. All it does is make me more excited about mine!
Great stuff Todd...and 'blues, I'm sure you'll be happy with the new results when they arrive.

[Ragingblues]

Beautiful look to the leather. They are all too shiney when new, so I wouldn't take that into account at all. It's a shame about the fit, but as we have found out again here.... Todd is a heck of a nice guy and ges out of his way to make things right. Congrats to Todd for being so great about making another jacket.

Ken

[pitfallharry]

Well, I certainly like that the jacket is lighter than some of the others. I've always thought my Wested was rather light but I've worn it in the winter with a sweater underneath and it's kept me warm. It will be interesting to see how Todd's jackets handle different climates.

By the way I've kind of been staring at the jacket more and I don't see how having a smaller size would shrink the length of the side straps?? Maybe it's the angle of the shots but I agree that the side straps look a little to long.

[IndyBlues]

It's possible these longer straps would look way better with the D-rings(as opposed to the tri-glide), and doing the double over lock down method. This way it gives a little more length to the leftover strap, when it's all cinched up.
'Blues

[pitfallharry]

IB, are you going to have Todd switch to the D-Rings? I liked the way the tri-glide looked it just seemed like the straps could use a little trimming.

[Kaplan]

you know...I was looking at the first pic in this thread. I'm no SA guru or anything, but I think it would look a little better with that right hand (the one to our left when viewed 2nd person) patch pocket moved closer to the storm flap. I'm having trouble finding screencaps...but I'm thinking about Indy leaning up against the bar in the raven. I could be completely wrong. Anybody else?

[Tyrloch]

Do those tri-glides have the prongs? It doesn't look like they do in the pics...

~Jace

[IndyBlues]

Harry, I think I'm going to keep the tri-glide, it seems to work nice., and I like the lower profile of them.

Kaplan, the pocket placement may be because of the XXL size, I'm not sure. Todd is going to work all these kinks out.

Tyrloch, no prongs on these tri-glides.

It's going back today, so I can get my new jacket underway as soon as possible. I am very pleased with Todds work, otherwise, and I am extremely happy with the level of customer service I am receiving. Can't wait to see the new jacket, and take some more pics.
'Blues