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Post by In-D on Mar 28, 2009 9:18:22 GMT -5
I heard that since pecards and vaseline are both petroleum based, you could use vaseline on a whip. Is this so?  ??   In-D |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 28, 2009 10:51:33 GMT -5
I heard that since pecards and vaseline are both petroleum based, you could use vaseline on a whip. Is this so? ?? In-D I coulda sworn that there is a link in here somewhere that advises against that. i'll look around.. I cant seem to locate anything, but looked online. A good number of folks use Vaseline on gloves and leather jackets. Let this thread sit for a couple of days and one of the Gurus will probably give you some sage advice.   |
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Post by Tyrloch on Mar 29, 2009 11:40:13 GMT -5
Technically, you could use hand cream on a whip. After all, it's skin, just the skin of an animal. Hand cream is made to restore lost iols and moisture to your hands, so is leather dressing. I would just stay away from the more water-based hand creams...
~Jace
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 29, 2009 14:53:06 GMT -5
...and dont use anything like olive oil. That will go rancid.
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Post by bernardodc on Mar 30, 2009 9:59:57 GMT -5
Throughout the years, many types of lubricants has been used to help preserve leather, and one of them is vaseline. This is a petroleum based lubricant (Petrolatum), the main ingredient used by Pecard and Fiebings for their leather dressings.
The only difference between these dressings and vaseline, is that they have beeswax (and other types of waxes possibly). Waxes are used because of their water proofing properties, as they remain on the leather surface. However, the downside is that the wax will leave the leather sticky, which will attract dust and dirt. Also, too much wax can inhibit the leather's ability to "breath", that is, to absorb and release the humidity in air. Thus, the leather will dry out faster.
After testing many different types of leather dressings available in the market, I prefer the ones that have less wax in them or none at all.
So, in my opinion, yes, you can use vaseline on a whip. Just apply it mostly to the fall, as this is the part that will loose oils faster. I have found that a light coat on the thong every couple of years is more than enough. Overlubricating is definitely worse than not applying any dressing at all.
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Bernardo
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Post by In-D on Mar 30, 2009 16:28:33 GMT -5
Thanks everybody,
So I should use vaseline once or twice a year AND use saddle soap regularly? Saddle soap would provide the waterproofing ability you speak of.
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Post by essentiawhips on Mar 31, 2009 3:38:50 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with all that Bernardo has stated with regards vaseline, on the fall it's just as good as any leather dressing on the market, it actually seems quite common here in the UK for folks to do that.......the one they all use is white vaseline this is the type used by tattooists and readily available offa good old ebay....it doesn't hurt to give your fall a smiddgen of dressing on a very regular basis infact it's a very good thing.... As to leather dressing I also think Fieblings and Pecards to be too heavy on the bee's wax, making the whip very sticky, it is of course horses for courses but I like Jay-el myself....once a year smother the whip top to bottom let it sit to soak in for a while then rub it in really well and buff the whip up that'll be more than enough for a good 12 months if not longer...... ind.... Saddle soap is a cleaning agent not a leather dressing...... Tony |
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Post by In-D on Mar 31, 2009 6:57:52 GMT -5
Can I use saddle soap along with it or should I just use vaseline occasionally? |
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Post by bernardodc on Mar 31, 2009 11:23:39 GMT -5
In-D,
As Tony said, saddle soap is only for cleaning the leather. Some saddle soaps also provide some conditioning, but they are not dressings.
I have been reading a lot lately about leather preservation. I've read that saddle soaps are alkaline, and too frequent applications can be harmful to the leather. You should only use saddle soap if your whip gets really dirty. Also, try to use as little water as possible when applying the soap with a wet sponge or when removing it.
I've been applying Pecards to my whips every six months or so, and I didn't like the wax buildup. Fiebings is less waxy, but will still leave a noticiable wax coat, depending on the thickness of the coat and how often you apply it. Wax is more useful on boots or saddles I think, since the chances of them getting wet are greater. But on whips, I don't really think we need any water proofing.
I prefer Jay-el too, it gets absorbed much quicker than either Pecard or Fiebings, and leaves less residue. I have just applied some Jay-el to the fall of my new Murphy whip as it was a bit dry, and in a couple of minutes it soaked in, and now it feels supple and well lubricated.
Vaseline repels water by itself, so I would use it on the fall frequently, and on the whip sparingly, like I said once every couple of years, depending on how dry is the weather were you live, and how much you use your whip. Like Tony said, white vaseline is widely used and readily available at any drug store. Technical name: white petrolatum.
Regards,
Bernardo
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Post by In-D on Mar 31, 2009 17:44:52 GMT -5
So should i give the thong a good lather?
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Post by Ragingblues on Mar 31, 2009 19:12:49 GMT -5
So should i give the thong a good lather? That's what she said!  Ken |
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