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Post by strikeomen on Apr 15, 2012 11:28:42 GMT -5
I have ordered one of Todd's raiders holsters and I am now looking to find a gun that will fit. Being in the Uk that makes it alot harder. I found this which is similar: www.actionhobbies.co.uk/4-M-29-Chrome-BB-Gun-Revolver-2-Tone_AT36V.aspx?nh=0but not too sure if it would fit the holster. I would get one of Todd's guns but don't want to risk it getting destroyed at customs. Obviously any alternatives would be welcome.
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Post by fifthchamber on Apr 16, 2012 6:26:48 GMT -5
You could try one of Wade Egan's kits? Although I'm not entirely sure what he can do about customs back in Blighty... You should email him and see if there's a way around it though perhaps? Colouring the thing brightly, or something else might work? With customs who knows though?......I'd give Wade a call and see what he says.. web.mac.com/wadeegan/Wadeventure/Pistol_Replicas.html
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Post by strikeomen on Apr 16, 2012 13:05:50 GMT -5
On that page it says at the bottom "*At this time we cannot offer international shipping on any of the prop pistol replicas. "
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Post by kwad on Apr 16, 2012 15:09:41 GMT -5
strikeomen,
The gun in your link appears to be copied after of the S&W model 29 .44 magnum. The model 29 was built on the "N" sized frame, just like the M1917/HE2 guns carried in Raiders. Assuming the maker made this gun to 1:1 scale, it should fit perfectly in your Todd's holster.
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Post by fifthchamber on Apr 16, 2012 17:15:30 GMT -5
And yeah, I know he says that, but sometimes there are ways around it... Wade would be able to help let you know what needs to be covered to be able to send something like that...
Hence the "I'd email him" thing....
I know what he wrote on the site...Just trying to offer some ideas that might be workable..
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Post by strikeomen on Apr 16, 2012 17:23:10 GMT -5
Just sent him an email lets see what happens.
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Post by strikeomen on Apr 16, 2012 17:33:13 GMT -5
Wade says he can only ship a orange kit version of the webly but can't ship the S&W finished replicas and he does not offer them in kit form.
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Post by fifthchamber on Apr 17, 2012 7:58:19 GMT -5
Ah...I see...Shame...I'd guessed the same laws would work for the Webley as for the S&W...Guess not....Shame and a little puzzling really..But I guess it makes sense..
Looks like your only bet is to stick inside the UK then? There are times when I'm glad I left London...Not too many..But this I guess is one of them..Japanese have no real guns, but are crazy about their model gun replicas...So I get realistically scary weapons at fairly decent prices...
What about the Model kit stores there? In London there used to be a few that carried gun kits...I'm not sure about the laws as they stand now though..
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Post by macauirr on Apr 17, 2012 16:05:23 GMT -5
I was really looking forward to getting the S&W resin replica that Wade has on offer. It looks beautiful! However, because I live in London (UK), this is no longer an option. How frustrating that can be!
I go to Hong Kong often, and that is the paradise of gun replicas! (and at very reasonable prices). I believe most of them come from Japan, but the Hong Kong people are really crazy about them!
Ben...I like London, but on occasions like this I feel as if I was living inside of a big condom! Do you know what I mean?
Anyway...I'll continue to dream of filling my (currently) empty Todds Raiders holster with Wade's S&W one day!
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Post by fifthchamber on Apr 18, 2012 8:47:30 GMT -5
Know what you mean entirely....Yeah....It was one of the reasons I left originally..London can be a great city, but it has a lot about it that drives me insane...That said, I came to Tokyo and still find that to be the craziest place I've ever lived....So...I guess it's all the same and the grass is always greener over there eh?
Model gunwise Japan is a pretty decent place to live though...The police are fairly laidback (since there's very little crime here), and sometimes that means that they have a lot of free time and need to stop foreigners simply because we're not Japanese..But that aside, the lack of crime also means that they're far less worried about model kits...I think the UK has gotten pretty stupid about that recently....Swords too eh? (I'm worried about that since I train in Jujutsu and need a sword in training, so if I came home, I'd need to have more permits than I can find to get the weapons back...Stupidness...)...
So yeah, I know entirely what ya mean....But on the otherside, living abroad for a few years means you can see the better things about life in London..Even if you don't really want to live there again...LOL
2 weeks will be fine for me sometime this year I think...2 weeks at home is about right to see the best of it all...LOL
And yeah...Wade's leather holster was my most recent kit, and the gun I have fits it so well it's amazing...I think I like the smaller S&W and the colouring of the Raiders holster a touch more than the Webley, although the Webley is a little "cooler" gunwise...LOL
Good stuff...And good luck with the dream! I hope the UK sorts itself out legally sometime soon..But I'm not holding out for it eh?....
Politicians suck...LOL
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Post by macauirr on Apr 18, 2012 17:01:03 GMT -5
Well put...politicians suck, and big time. They go from one extreme to another...this is getting absolutely crazy in here. Japan...Tokyo...a crazy city. Why, I wonder? Although I think I can imagine in what way it's a crazy place. I have a lot of respect for the Japanese and their culture, although my travels to the Far East never saw me landing in the Empire of the rising sun. Maybe one day...maybe wearing my Penman hat ! Nice talking to you. What you say about Japan sounds fascinating, especially when you mention about the Jujutsu and swords! Best regards, Ismael "If they knew we were here, we would be dead already!"
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Post by fifthchamber on Apr 18, 2012 21:22:50 GMT -5
I think there are several things here that make very little sense to anyone, even the Japanese.....Some of them just naturally inherent in the way Japanese people are raised (the attitude to touching women on trains for example), and some more in the place itself...(Building shapes being forced to change according to a strange law about sunlight meaning that some buildings have rooms the size of a toilet box with a slanted roof...And people live there...For example..)
A lot of it is just randomly interesting...Not especially crazy..But after a few years here it can get to seem a touch further on the "crazy" line...An amazing train service but one that stops whenever it rains for some reason for example.... There's a fair bit to go over...LOL
I love Japan...Still do, having been here 9 years this summer and enjoyed most of it...Despite some downs...I came to learn classical Japanese martial arts..And managed to find a great school here that was created in 1532...Although it's called Jujutsu, the curriculum covers nearly all the main weapons used by the samurai so it has spear, sword, dagger, rope-tying, staff (different lengths), kusarigama (Sickle and chain), Shuriken (throwing darts), Iai/Batto (sword drawing), and the unarmed stuff too... It's rather good fun and there's a lot to work on.. So it's been a great way to learn the language and the art itself...
I would guess that Hong Kong has many similar bits of "crazy" in it...So if you go on those you'll probably hit close enough to the mark...It is fun living here..
And yeah, Japanese politicians suck even more than British ones...So I'm guessing it's a "natural state" for politicians to absolutely suck the soul out of anything worth doing at all..Sad eh?
Regards.
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Post by macauirr on Apr 19, 2012 17:07:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the great explanation of 'craziness' in Japan. Fascinating. What do you do in there for a living? Are you working somewhere? I envy you: it must be great learning all those skills in such an old and traditional Japanese school like the one you describe!
Yeah, I suppose politicians suck everywhere. It's the nature of the beast. I am originally from Spain, and it's not much better in there! But, same as in Japan, they are MUCH MORE relaxed about weapons!
Hong Kong can be a crazy place as well, for several other reasons. But fascinating and a lot of fun as well. I go there at least once a year, and I guess I could end up moving there for good one day soon!
Let me know when you are in London and we'll continue to discuss Japanese martial arts, Indy gear and else over a pint or two!
Best, Ismael
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Post by strikeomen on Apr 21, 2012 16:49:49 GMT -5
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Post by macauirr on Apr 24, 2012 19:51:42 GMT -5
Hi there! I actually rang FrontierModels.com, asking them for the 'Raiders' Smith & Wesson kit. The guy told me that it will remain out of stock until, at least, end of May. www.frontiermodels.co.uk/Smith-Wesson-.45-Revolver-p-20032.htmlIn any case, what do you guys think of it? It's a resin kit, that has to be assembled and painted by yourself. I wonder how difficult that can be, and what the result may be like! Please note that the kit can be purchased at two different prices: - 49.99 GBP (80.70 USD) for the unmade kit. - 97.00 GBP (156.00 USD) for the finished model I wish I could have Wade's S&W resin replica sent to the UK (with no Thuggees getting in the way)!
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Post by strikeomen on Apr 25, 2012 16:08:58 GMT -5
Well if they have them back in stock I will definitely be getting one. Might go for the unmade one. Try to build something for myself for once, although I will need to buy some paint ;D
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Post by trimotor on Oct 16, 2013 9:01:50 GMT -5
Hello Strikeomen, Be very careful looking at purchasing a replica within the UK and I would totally rule out trying to import one. Six years ago this month, in 2007, the Parliament implemented the part of the Violent Crime Reduction act (VCRA) which made it a criminal offence to import, sell or manufacture a realistic imitation firearm. There are three exceptions to this law as I understand. 1- You need the RIF for theatre or for film production. Proof for this has to be a letter with the companys letterhead explaing the need for the RIF and how it will be used. 2- You need the RIF for your participation in Historical reenactments. Proof for this is a copy of your membership card from the organisation/club tat you reenact with. 3- You play Airsoft. Proof for this is membership with an airsoft association and you have to play and have signed off a certain amount of matches before you can purchase your RIF. Or you can purchase your RIF and have the vendor paint a certain percentage of the gun in a bright colour (Blue, orange red, etc.), if I remember correctly its around 60%, and it is no longer classed as a RIF and therefore is no longer covered by these restrictions. You must leave it that colour. Repainting it in black/grey is illegal. The best option, in my opinion, is to find the real thing, deactivated. UK spec deacts legally hold the same status as a paperweight, and have no stupid RIF laws surrounding them. The are expensive however. Most people I know are astounded at these laws which mean you can sell your deactivated pistol to a friend no bother but if you sell him a toy gun from you childhood you have both broken the law, but that's UK politics, isn't it. More info here - www.basc.org.uk/en/departments/firearms/violent-crime-reduction-act.cfm
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Post by madkidjedi on Oct 17, 2013 0:24:52 GMT -5
Wow... and I thought we here in the U.S. had idiotic gun laws... You Brits win.
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Post by trimotor on Oct 17, 2013 3:51:51 GMT -5
Madkidjedi,
True, but on the other hand, you can get a moderator (Supressor) here without any special additional laws like the NFA requirements in the US. They are commonly used for hunting to protect the hearing of the shooter and to avoid the noise of the shot carrying, alarming the public.
Magazine capacity is not and never has been restricted, "assault weapon features" are legal and while Clinton passed the ban in the US, all those features were legal here. 922r is an insane law in the US, what is it other than protectionism?
Here, we can't have any semi automatic in a centrefire calibre, but rimfire is ok. The Ruger 10/22 is legal, the M1 Garand is not. Pistol shooting is limited to flintlocks, percussion, cap and ball revolvers, and cartridge "Long barreled pistols" a monstrosity that has to be something like 24" overall length! Worse still, here in Scotland the devolved government (Similar to how your states can set their own laws) is trying to ban airguns.
Hope that gives you some insight into the bad laws here, but also shows that the politicians here don't have an infatuation over this "Assault weapon" stuff.
Your Constitution and Bill Of Rights were the greatest idea. You are lucky to have them.
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Post by madkidjedi on Oct 17, 2013 23:32:21 GMT -5
So we are. Not pointing any fingers... politics is tricky nonsense, especially where guns are concerned.
And don't get me wrong; I do appreciate the freedoms the founders here set forward. If's just sad to see how twisted their interpretations have become as the years have passed.
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