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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 20, 2011 18:45:33 GMT -5
LOL....Yeah, it might just be because Japan is Japan and it doesn't have such a "rep" to keep here perhaps? (The "in-house" delivery services are great here)... They passed it off to one of the Japanese companies to deliver after 6pm, since they close at 5pm here... Very odd.. But I've never used them in the UK, so I couldn't compare the service... It's not "bad" per se... Just not really good... Any delivery company that stops working at 5pm is rather a strange idea I think... Might just be me though... Regards..
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 1:35:40 GMT -5
Since it all arrived I figured I'd post up some photos so people can see what came out! This is the first one... Wested's and Magnoli trousers compared..Both Cavalry Twill... Magnoli's on the left side, Wested's on the right..
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 1:38:45 GMT -5
And I know this isn't a thread for it, but people might like to see the colour differences with the Wested shirts and Magnoli (Version "A"/"Raiders") shirts...
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 1:46:50 GMT -5
And lastly, one in the gear itself.... This is; Wested Cavalry Twill trousers Magnoli (Version "A" shirt) Wested Lambskin "Last Crusade" jacket Akubra "Fed IV Deluxe" in Brown... I think that's all of it? For now anyway... Have a good weekend all!
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Post by imtheflash on Jan 22, 2011 3:22:50 GMT -5
I like the magnoli pants so much! They don't have that shine on them
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 5:47:17 GMT -5
Yeah, the design is a great one too...So close! Tighter around the hips and loose around the calves and ankles, gives it that roomy feel lower down while still looking good around the hips..Seven belt hoops, all the small touches spot on too..Sooooo good... The Wested's are a little easier to wear, because they aren't so close to my legs, but rather less "right" Indy wise...And only 6 belt hoops, with other smaller design mistakes..Colour is decent for LC and Skulls I'd say, but rather less so for Raiders.. Magnoli does rule...
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Post by stargate on Jan 22, 2011 6:14:53 GMT -5
Nice comparison pics there Ben, cheers for sharing I must say though, the Magnoli shirts looks a bit too dark and slightly pink in hue, compared to Wested's truer khaki colour - would you agree? And does it offset properly against the colour of their trousers? (I noticed you're wearing it against Wested's trousers in the pic). The Magnoli trousers look good though, and yet again, a different shade to the Wested's: more of a natural biscuit-brown than Wested's slightly brick-coloured brown As I said, nice looking gear there, and thanks for sharing the pics!
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 6:45:17 GMT -5
I would say that the Magnoli shirt is exactly what he uses as the name for the colour... "Stone"...It is...It's not quite khaki...Closer to the slightly off-white colour used in Raiders..I was re-watching that film yesterday and holding the shirt up to compare, and it's comfortably close to the colour used in that film (Minus the darkening for sweat etc..).. Very close indeed..
Compared to TOD or LC it's not khaki enough, and I'd say that that is a pattern that continued through to Crystal Skull...The Wested isn't really khaki, I'd say it's a little too green for that, but it's close, and it's a very good match (colour-wise) for the Crystal Skull type shirt..
The Magnoli is perhaps best described as a light Khaki, or an off white colour...And with the Magnoli pants the combination is VERY close to Raiders..With the browner Wested trousers the shirt looks a little whiter perhaps? But still a good combination in my eyes..The Wested shirt contrasts well with the Wested pants, but less well with the slightly deeper brown of the Magnoli pants, it's close, so looks a little same-same...
The best combination colour wise is the Magnoli pants and shirt...But I like the room I have in the Wested pants right now, so chose to wear those for the photo above..(It's more natural for me to wear loose trousers right now..)
I'd say: Raiders - Magnoli Cavalry Twill Wool in Vintage Brown with Magnoli shirt TOD - Same trousers with the Magnoli shirt again, although it would need to be dyed slightly to get it right LC - Wested trousers and dyed Magnoli shirt KOTCS - Wested trousers and Wested shirt... But that's just using the selection that I have here now....
The thing I love the best about the Magnoli shirt is that it's not OBVIOUSLY Indy....It's a VERY subtle colour, and it's only with the rest of the gear on that it looks "Indy-like", the rest of the time it'll make a very good dress shirt for work I think..And I plan to use it for that! With both versions of trousers to finish it off...
Hope that helps a little?
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 6:52:54 GMT -5
I just wrote all that when I could have just shown ya! Stoopid.... Anyway... This is the Magnoli shirt with the Magnoli trousers... Good contrast I think... What do you reckon? (That's my "Blue-Steel" look right there....LOL)
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 6:57:07 GMT -5
And the belt is wrong... But I'm not SOOOOO SA as all that.... I like the Raiders style, and will keep to that as close as I can, but the button on the jacket makes sense, and the belt? Well... Wade is making my gunbelt and will ship the brown belt along with that when he sends it! So I'll re-do the photos again when all the gear turns up!
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Post by stargate on Jan 22, 2011 7:40:28 GMT -5
Ben - I see what you mean It was just that first shot of the Magnoli shirt next to the Wested one, that made it look so much more different, with a sort of pinkish hue?! But seeing it on, and especially in contrast to the trousers, it definitely looks more "stone" And I know what you mean about the belt - it does look a little mustard in colour there, which makes it stand out quite a bit ;D My belt is a lovely brown colour, with a kind of abraded silver buckle, which has started to develop a brown wear-patch on the top. It matches the Wested pants quite nicely, and to say that it was a cheap supermarket belt, it's lasted for ages ;D Thanks again for the pics, and you really have got some nice gear there!
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 7:50:28 GMT -5
Haha...I did the same thing as you for the web belt mate...Bought it for 500 yen (About 2 quid?) in a small superstore here for something to "tide me over"...Wade had some lovely belts on his site though, one with a great buckle in a dark brown that I'd prefer over the lighter tan belts...(I'm a dark belt fan I guess...), so I ordered one of those...
I'm glad that the pics help show what I meant! Of course, it's all open to discussion since we all see slightly different images (and the films change clothing and styling so often it makes it rather hard to do anything more than match one scene at a time anyway), but I feel very good about the overall colour mix and the designs, and I guess that's all that matters...
As a small aside, what size Wested shirt did you get? And does it work? Mine is XL, but maybe I've been in Japan-land too long, because it appears I'm shrinking... Maybe a large would work better for me... I was just wondering what your experience with their shirts was?
All the best..
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Post by stargate on Jan 22, 2011 7:58:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I see colours quite differently to a lot of people, and (oftentimes) get a little arrogant when saying "that's definitely X colour, not Y colour!" ;D As to your aside - I went for the XL, as I'm about 6'2" and have a 46" chest (ish), so it's comfortable. It is a little baggy around the waist (oddly), so there's some material to tuck in, but overall it's a great fit, and definitely better than normal shop-bought stuff In fact, I did consider the large, but given my stature, thought it safer to go with the XL. So perhaps you'd be better off with a L?
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 8:13:28 GMT -5
Hahah...Same experience! I'm not as tall, but since I weight lift and do Jujutsu here my chest is annoyingly big (46 or 47)...I found the shirt to be fine up to about there, but the waist just has far too much fabric and air! So I have to tuck the shirt in strategically to make it look decent...It's not bad at all once sorted out, but still, it was a little frustrating to see... Like you, I would be worried about not being the right size for a large...So I ordered XL to be sure, and now I'm wondering! I guess with Wested shirts it's probably better to order just one size down eh?Next time I'll try a large and see what happens I reckon.. The pants on the other hand fit perfectly, while I've seen comments from people saying that the trousers were badly shaped etc....So I'm confused about it all really...They suit me down to the ground...Just that shirt...(Still, at least if I suddenly lose the urge to train and just eat donuts for a year or two I reckon I'll be okay...At least there's that.. Thanks..It wasn't just my order then! Regards..
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Post by stargate on Jan 22, 2011 12:14:24 GMT -5
Yeah, there does seem to be a bit too much material in the waist area of the Wested shirt, even for someone like me with a bit of a beer belly ;D Thankfully though, the vertical stripes actually make it easier to align, although if you do still manage to cock it up, you end up with "stripe snap" - walking along with a little "pop-pop!" sound, as the stripe's pleat keeps snapping back and forth ;D ;D Same "problem" with the trousers here too - they fit me perfectly, but others constantly complain about how tight they are in the calf?! My only thought about this is that it's because folks are having the silly "military hem" (4" reverse turn up), which then means there's so much extra material, they appear to be tight. Mine, on the other hand, have a simple small hem to make them comfortable for my leg length. As such, they fit perfectly, and the material falls just right
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Post by imtheflash on Jan 22, 2011 19:59:41 GMT -5
Hey Ben, how long did it take to get your pants from magnoli?
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 20:28:16 GMT -5
The pants from Magnoli took about a month to come through because they'd run out of Cavalry Twill and it looked like it would take until February to get more of it...They must have come through earlier because they sent it a month sooner than I was expecting...I'd say you'd normally wait two weeks or so more or less? Depending on what you wanted... And Stargate, actually, mine are hemmed with the Military hem too... Both trousers have it, the Wested's were done for me by my schools tailor for free, and the Magnoli's were done at my request and although slightly shorter make the fit and hang perfect when in shoes.. I reckon it's all these wannabe bodybuilders who just train calves that can't fit into these things! They suit me fine... Here are the Wested's: Here are the Magnoli's: And finally, a comparison shot: I don't think it could be the Military hem that does it...It only adds one layer and some weight to the trousers...Surely no reason why they can't fit..Maybe Wested changed his design?Although I'd guess that if he'd have done that they'd be more "right" in regards to small design changes (See Alkali's posts on the "Trouser details" thread..).. I dunno..
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 22, 2011 20:45:19 GMT -5
Oh, and Stargate, I'd agree that having that hem is a little strange...But that said, when you wear trousers that are done like this you really can see why it makes sense...It makes the trousers fall flat when you stand, they never bunch at the front (over the foot) so the trouser leg always looks straight and neat! While I'd agree it's a little odd to worry about them, I think having them, and having the understanding of WHY is probably a good thing!
My tailor was asking me for "projects that aren't so easy" (Since he's there to fix the students clothes if they rip etc, so he gets a lot of simple hems and repair work only), so I guessed that he'd like the Military hem, and he really loved the work! Once he understood why it really made him smile and the finished work is very good for no cash at all! The line should be straight at the top of the hem, but it's such a good job that I'd never complain about that.. (I gave him a good bottle of Whiskey as payment, and I'll keep doing that every now and again I think... He's a great guy to work with!)..
It IS a nerds SA thing...But it does make sense, and it helps the pants look a little different, and I was glad to have that experience, even if I'll probably never use it outside of these two pants...It's a little long explaining it all in Japanese..LOL..
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Post by stargate on Jan 23, 2011 7:39:21 GMT -5
Hmm... I'd never considered how it might effect the way the trousers fall while sat down... makes sense ;D Unfortunately for me, there just wasn't enough material to do a 4" hem on the Wested's, so mine's fairly short (only 1-2"). Might put some of the Magnoli pants on my "To buy when..." list
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Post by fifthchamber on Jan 23, 2011 18:47:57 GMT -5
Yeah, it's subtle, but it does make a difference... Standing as well actually, since the excess fabric doesn't bunch up at all and the extra weight makes the trouser fall straighter as well... But I think something like that is just something to be aware of, not something that anyone really NEEDS per se.....It's just fun to try it...
And yeah, the amount of things on my "to buy when" list is insane...Gotta get rich...LOL
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Post by fifthchamber on Feb 26, 2011 18:26:36 GMT -5
Hey Indy... Yes, I've seen several of the threads over on the COW, Magnoli's are one of the best designs out there.... Great work, no doubt at all (So good I recently ordered a second set actually, cut wider so I can wear them in spring and summer without having them tight and warmer..).. Really good gear..
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