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Post by alden405 on Jul 16, 2006 20:38:10 GMT -5
Gday all and thanks to KT Templar for letting me on on this little forum I want to talk about other period jackets spy smasher screen grabs anyone? Spy smasher is a huge abd obvious influence on the raiders films and the jacket is awesome anyone? Sam
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Post by jweaver on Jul 16, 2006 20:40:50 GMT -5
Screen grabs would be cool. I don't think I've ever heard of the movie. Welcome!
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Post by agent5 on Jul 16, 2006 21:48:39 GMT -5
I was just curious what any of this has to do with locked threads? Did I miss something?
Spy Smasher was a very low budget tv show back in the day, right? Aren't there some clips of it on the Making of Raiders VHS?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2006 22:25:30 GMT -5
I was wondering about the locked thread part too.
Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by indianatone on Jul 16, 2006 22:35:47 GMT -5
I didnt' catch the reason for locking it down, either. Never heard of Spy Smasher but it's an interesting theory on the influence over Indy's jacket.
I still don't know why they locked the thread.
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Post by bendingoak on Jul 17, 2006 0:20:39 GMT -5
the lock down was because it wasn't Indy related. Don't shoot me I did make it up. I'm just repeating what i read.
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Post by agent5 on Jul 17, 2006 10:05:46 GMT -5
Oh. Now I get it.
After going back and looking over the thread I see that it is ok to post non-Indy related subjects so long as you are Wested Leather. That just seems wrong, to say the least. Check it out.
Does anyone else see anything wrong with this or notice just a small ammount of favortism here? I mean, the Spysmasher jacket has as much to do with Indy as the Rocketeer jacket, yet it's ok for Wested to post about IT. And when and if they make a Spy Smasher jacket, they will also be allowed to post about it, but someone like you...no way.
I dunno. Seems really one sided to me.
According to the site rules it shouldn't be, but it is. These are the things that really sadden me. I just wish it could go back to the same old cow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2006 10:29:11 GMT -5
Well the same thing goes for IM's props. He is allowed to advertise ANYTHING that he is making or selling.
Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by Kt. Templar on Jul 17, 2006 10:37:11 GMT -5
Oh. Now I get it. After going back and looking over the thread I see that it is ok to post non-Indy related subjects so long as you are Wested Leather. That just seems wrong, to say the least. Check it out. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this or notice just a small ammount of favortism here? I mean, the Spysmasher jacket has as much to do with Indy as the Rocketeer jacket, yet it's ok for Wested to post about IT. And when and if they make a Spy Smasher jacket, they will also be allowed to post about it, but someone like you...no way. I dunno. Seems really one sided to me. According to the site rules it shouldn't be, but it is. These are the things that really sadden me. I just wish it could go back to the same old cow. Actually if you look who started that thread, it wasn't Wested it was Jonesy. The rule there goes that if it is a vendor item then it is ok for a while. If it has nothing to do with a vendor then it really has not connection except maybe it's made of leather it get's shut down pretty quickly. Eg the Wested WOW jackets we were talking about a little while ago. Or the Doctor Who. Or maybe the new Stargate Atlantis. The spysmasher thread actually went on for much longer than I expected, maybe the mods were taking a weeked off. IM is a different matter altogether. It seems a conflict of interests that a prop vendor is the moderator of the prop replicating section.
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Post by agent5 on Jul 17, 2006 10:53:55 GMT -5
So, if one of us took it upon ourselves to make a Spy Smasher jacket, would we receive the same treatment as Wested, or would we be told this is completely off topic and to take it to other sites where we can discuss such things?
See, to me, the lines are not black and white, theres alot of grey, or gray. ;D Lately things have been murky, from what I've experienced and also been told.
I understand they leave certain off-topic posts up for a small ammount of time and delete or lock them. I just don't understand how we are not allowed to discuss something like the Blade Runner coat, but if Wested was to make one, even though it has nothing at all to do with Indy, they will be allowed to post it. They are BOTH just as off topic. Same goes with the archaeology section. Has NOTHING to do with the Indy films unless you talk Ark, Stones or Grail, which they do not. Almost every post there is off topic. Now, DO NOT get me wrong, I want more off topic talk there, it's just that the Spy Smasher jacket has as much to do with Indy as any of the topics in the Archaeology section does, yet one is allowed and the other is not. It's pure hypocricy. Only...they don't see it that way.
Who knows? Maybe I am crazy and in the wrong. I just wish someone would tell me now.
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Post by Kt. Templar on Jul 17, 2006 11:06:53 GMT -5
No, I disagree. Wested made the indy jacket, many of us are interested if they produce another film based jacket. However, if I made a leather jacket I suspect that no-one would be in the slightest bit interested. On this specific topic I had no interest as I have no knowledge of Spysmasher at all, maybe it never ran over here, now if it were a Biggles or Dan Dare jacket . I agree that many of the archeology topics are irrelevant and have no Indy connection at all. But just the same as how the rules are developing here... there is a certain amount of self regulating that happens. If you are not interested don't read and don't post. The thread will go away soon enough if nobody is interested. They don't like it on COW when people run away with 'OT' topics. And tend to kill topics 'of a certain kind' very quickly. I can't see why, does it use up more server space?
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Post by agent5 on Jul 17, 2006 11:25:23 GMT -5
I still say fair is fair and if Wested can , so should the rest of us be able to.
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Post by indianatone on Jul 17, 2006 11:47:53 GMT -5
Based on Alden405's reason for the post, it seems the intent was to post a correlation between that jacket and Indy's for speculation; though it looks like the point of that wasn't brought up clearly enough to keep it from getting locked. I didn't read anything beyond the first couple of posts, so maybe it did get mentioned. Like many, I had no idea what or who a Spy Smasher was so it did seem far-fetched and off-topic kind of jacket to me also. I've done a small-scale internet search for Spy Smasher to get a look at the jacket and can't find any pics so it's even harder to put a show I've never heard of in with the Indy type stuff.
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Post by alden405 on Jul 17, 2006 19:44:28 GMT -5
Spy Smasher is worth tracking down on DVD ( about 12 $ on evilbay ) the pacing is brilliant and its a ton of fun the jacket is cool as well ( although not a key costume piece,more of an icognito disguise ) its has an action back,zip up hand warmers and a chest pocket,side buckles ( no spilts )
the jacket predates Indy and The Rocketeer doesnt
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Post by jweaver on Jul 17, 2006 20:36:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2006 21:15:12 GMT -5
Now that's what I call good searching That does look like an Old Troopers jacket. Cheers, G-MANN
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Post by bendingoak on Jul 17, 2006 23:12:46 GMT -5
I hear where everyone coming from but, it's there web site. I think they areeextending themselve to those who are venders ( who make Indy products).
See, to me, the lines are not black and white, theres alot of grey, or gray. Lately things have been murky, from what I've experienced and also been told.
Sorry agent 5, the world isn't black or white.
I think we should be greatfull for this place for having a place we can stray and greatfull for COW because we wouldn't have half the stuff we are all sportting.
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Post by alden405 on Jul 18, 2006 1:06:17 GMT -5
Yep the aero slimfit 1930 is close except the back panel on the Spy Smasher jacket has a central gusset
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Post by Havana on Jul 18, 2006 10:30:22 GMT -5
I saw the Spysmasher serials many, many moons ago on some crappy VHS copies. The whole thing is very Raiders with lots of serial type action. It was definitely a cut above the typical serials.
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Post by drtyree on Jul 21, 2006 16:26:46 GMT -5
hi guys
the spysmasher jacket is basically a motorcycle jacket similar to IJ's the bike is spysmasher's main way of chasing Nazis and other bad guys
this serial is awesome, if you have never seen it, it is one of the best
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Post by Ragingblues on Jul 21, 2006 17:38:45 GMT -5
Hey drtyree,
Welcome to the lounge... I just noticed it was your first post and all.
Ken
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Post by drtyree on Jul 22, 2006 10:51:01 GMT -5
thanks, glad to be here still exploring the site, looks very cool
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Post by Kt. Templar on Jul 22, 2006 13:40:14 GMT -5
I still say fair is fair and if Wested can , so should the rest of us be able to. Sorry, to keep bringing this up guys. Agent 5 can you show me the threads on COW started by Peter to advertise Wested's non Indy items. I know Magnoli does it regularly. But Peter does not and I think you are doing the man a disservice by continuing to restate that point. I do think the Spy Smasher thread could have been allowed to continue, it shows similar lineage and was quite interesting.
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Post by alden405 on Jul 22, 2008 0:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by docjones on Jul 22, 2008 11:12:26 GMT -5
I am coming to this thread late, and shoot, I haven't even been a member for all that long, but IMHO I do not think either this forum or COW should be showing ANY favoritism towards one vendor or not, assuming that that is the issue in question.
While I think Wested is a good company, at this point, given that there are multiple vendors with VERY good product that are very close to the on-screen jackets, perhaps as much as anything Wested did, since his jackets were modified after delivery by the movie staff, these other shops should be treated with as much reverence as Wested.
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