Tony Nowak Indy 1 Jacket

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I was just wondering if anyone here has purchased a Tony Nowak Indy 1 Jacket.

If so what are your opinions on it.

Cheers,
John

[pagey]

I bought one. The cut and fit are great and the leather looks terrific - but it's soft . I found two rips in my right sleeve the other day - from carrying a christmas tree!!!


Tony's helpful resonse? Do you think Indy would get his jacket repaired with each scratch?

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Nick,

I knew you had bought one of these but I thought you had sold it.

That's really a shame about the rips. I had no idea that it could tear that easily. The leather looks very similar to my Wings/Cooper Jacket but mine is really tough leather even though it is Lambskin. I would have to really work at getting a tear like the ones on your Nowak.

Cheers,
John

[Kt. Templar]

Nick, that's a real shame about the jacket. I too thought you'd managed to sell it. Very helpful of the vendor.

As with another jacket thread, can I suggest trying to get some sort of help from your credit card company? (Assuming you did buy it on credit... eg. Visa has 90 day accldental damage/Loss insurance in the US. (Longer in the UK I think). Cards like Amex are better IIRC.

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From what I have read and heard, Tony says this is THE LEATHER used on the Raiders jackets but I cannot see how any of them could have survived what they were put through if they were made from that type of hide.

Cheers,
John

[pagey]

Fact of the matter is this is by far the most accurate looking raiders jacket I've ever seen- The cut and fit are simply spot on, in a way that no other jacket is - not Wested, Todd or anyone else. The hide also really has the vibe - it screams Raiders. But unfortunatlely falls short as a real world leather jacket. Life can be so cruel!!!!
Here are some pics of Nowak's Indy1

[Ragingblues]

Dec 27, 2008 14:16:31 GMT -5 @gmann said:

From what I have read and heard, Tony says this is THE LEATHER used on the Raiders jackets but I cannot see how any of them could have survived what they were put through if they were made from that type of hide.

Cheers,
John

The leather on a Nowak jacket looks absolutely nothing like the Raiders leather at all. I have no clue how anyone would believe such a thing... just because he said it was so.


Ken

[jnicktem]

You would think that with the price you pay for one of those jackets, you could get one that doesn't rip sooo easily. After all, it is an Indy jacket.

[New Yorker Jones]

Dec 27, 2008 20:51:56 GMT -5 jnicktem said:

You would think that with the price you pay for one of those jackets, you could get one that doesn't rip sooo easily. After all, it is an Indy jacket.

Not only that but you would hope Tony would do something for pagey. Doesn't bode well for his future as a vendor. Why should people pay that much for something so shoddy?

[jnicktem]

Exactly, a craftsmen should stand behind their work.

Either way, I could never afford one of Tony's jackets (unless I bought one cheap second-hand).

[pagey]

Tony has offered to repair the tears but frankly it's cost prohibitive to send the jacket to LA - especially as it'll no doubt get several more tears in the course of time. Most likely I'll repair it myself. The one very small rip can be fixed with a little leather glue - as for the bigger hole near the cuff, the sleeves need shortening by an inch or so anyway. Then I'll probably put it on ebay.

[GCR]

I'm with Ken on the look of the leather, the grain doesn't seem right for a Raiders jacket, but the other details (cut, fit, overall dimensions of things) look spot on, EXCEPT for the strap hardware. What the hell is that, anyway? Brass? Maybe it's really some shade of black or blued metal and it's just the lighting in that one pic, but it looks almost like brass. I'm also still not sold (and never will be until someone produces more convincing evidence) that the original jacket didn't have the traditional "double loop" hardware for the straps, rather than some of these newer jackets that have hardware consisting of a single piece. The straps tend to look too long (to my eye) with the single-piece hardware.

Still, overall, I'd love to have me one of these jackets, but it's a shame about the rips in the leather. Between that and the overall look / grain, I'm not so sure that is *the* Raiders leather. The color does look great, though.

[Ragingblues]

I also don't believe that the Tony's Indy 1 jacket leather is accurate! The fact that the film jacket grain matches in general and overall terms with the grain that Tony used doesn't mean that it is THE GRAIN used.

Actually, the grain of leather used in the Nowak jackets looks absolutely NOTHING like the Raiders jackets at all. It's far too stiff, pebbly, and grainy to even be considered remotely close. It is a good match to the older, rare pebbly leathered Indy jackets sold by U.S. Wings. G-mann (John) has pics of his, if anyone wants to compare.

Is it a nice looking leather for a jacket? That's up to each person's opinion, which is all that matters anyway. However, it is not even close to the leather used in any of the Indy movie jackets.


Ken

[pagey]

I'm going to send the jacket to Tony to have it repaired. Then it's up for sale.

[Sapito]

First, I can't belive the tear in a jacket that costs $1,000. Wow, that sucks. But, all leather can tear and the sharp branches of a tree would certainly do it.

But I'm also confused. I thought you were selling this jacket or had sold it? If so, how can you expect to sell it now after wearing it so much and now with the damage to it? Was it ever really for sale? If so, why not just put it in a box and wait instead of giving it so much use?

And, while I think the leather looks attractive, I don't buy that it's a perfect copy of what was used for the original. The whole story about the owner of the original not wanting photos taken is mighty fishy and simply strange. Unless he recieved a lot of money (or some other compensation), why let the thing be duplicated?

I might give Tony a call to see what other leathers he might be able to use for one. Or at least see if he'll do a Skull jacket in a darker shade than the film jacket. I really want a Nowak, even if the above seems a bit critical.

[pagey]

Dec 29, 2008 19:42:36 GMT -5 Sapito said:

But I'm also confused. I thought you were selling this jacket or had sold it? If so, how can you expect to sell it now after wearing it so much and now with the damage to it? Was it ever really for sale? If so, why not just put it in a box and wait instead of giving it so much use?

.

I don't see why you should be confused.
It was for sale but the buyer never got around to buying it. In fact I never heard back from them. It will be newly repaired by Tony so it won't have any damage to it. It hasn't been worn much as it's been too damn cold here. And besides, why can't I sell something if I've worn it??? Are all the things in the classifieds unworn??

[Sapito]

If I were going to buy a used jacket it would make a difference in the price depending on how much it had been worn. If someone says they recieved it, tried it on a few times and decided it didn't fit that would be worth a bit more than a jacket that had been worn for a month or so and worth more than something a couple years old. Now throw in the fact that its been repaired and the value goes down more.

I'm cool that you want to sell the jacket. But each time Tony gives you a response (in this case about Indy repairing each little scratch) you seem to taking shots at him. After your first bad exchange with Tony if it were me I wouldn't be contacting him again.

[New Yorker Jones]

Sapito,
I'm sure Pagey will take that into consideration. Besides after its repaired, it should be almost as good as new. Besides jackets are sold used all the time. And this is not just some US Wings or Wested (or even a G&B) jacket that can be bought right off the site. This is a limited TN jacket.

[Sapito]

Limited to 888, I'm sure you'll be able to get one for a while.

My point is, if you are going to sell something, why keep wearing it as the value can only go down - at least if you tell people how much wear it has. And add in the shipping for the repair.

That's all I'm saying.

[IndyBlues]

It's like a car,..sometimes you have to keep driving it around, even if you have it up for sale.
Hell, if I paid that much for a jacket, I'd get as much mileage out of it as I could, even if I was selling it. If anything, how was he to know it was going to rip so easilly. Especially a jacket that were are supposed to be able to "Beat the hell out of".
Besides, most things I've seen Pagey sell have been in great condition, even IF worn.
Rock on with your bad self, Pagey!
Mike

[jnicktem]

It's not like he is getting dragged under trucks wearing it.........


..... or is he?

[Tyrloch]

The washed goatskin Wested that I had bought from Pagey was in the exact condition he told me it was -- which was almost new, considering that the WG doesn't look too new even when it is...if that makes any sense at all...the point being that used doesn't necessarily mean used up, and Pagey doesn't attempt to 'slip one by you'.

~Jace

[New Yorker Jones]

Dec 30, 2008 19:07:47 GMT -5 Sapito said:

Limited to 888, I'm sure you'll be able to get one for a while.

My point is, if you are going to sell something, why keep wearing it as the value can only go down - at least if you tell people how much wear it has. And add in the shipping for the repair.

That's all I'm saying.

I've seen a gently worn G&B Expedition go more for than retail on ebay. Again I'm sure he'll take it into consideration. Looks like he's sending it to Tony right away to get fixed, and then he'll sell it. Besides who are we to tell people what to sell and for how much? What does it matter?

[Sapito]

I stand by what I said earlier. I never told him how much to sell it for or why to sell it, so please climb off me.

But if you followed the original thread on COW this very jacket turned into a big discussion about how Tony treated his customer when there was some question about the leather used. Personally, after the way he was allegedly bitched at, there's no way I'd continue to have any dealings with the guy who sold it to me. It just strikes me as odd now that this jacket again comes up with questions about the leather.

Take my head off if you will, but I'm just saying it seems odd and like the thread on COW there would continue to be photos of the jacket being worn and people were asking if it were really for sale or not. I'm not trying to make it personal against the guy, but it just strikes me as odd not to send it back to the maker and maybe try to get the same thing in a different hide.

[jnicktem]

I don't think he could get exchange the jacket for a jacket in a different hide.... but only get repairs done to it.