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[Ragingblues]

Who Might Be The Next Spider-Man?

www.latinoreview.com/news/who-might-be-the-next-spider-man-4726


El Mayimbe here with a HUGE SCOOP to start off the week.

It seems like Spider Man 4 and 5 is going full steam ahead.

Over the Holiday weekend, Kellvin got a tip from a trusted source as to whom may be the next Peter Parker/Spider Man in the upcoming films. Because my batting average has been pretty good lately, Kelvin and I decided to sit on it until Hollywood went back to work today and I can get more concrete info. This morning, I made some calls to my guys, fished around and here is what I managed to find out.

Laura Ziskin and Grant Curtis are tossing names around. NO OFFERS HAVE BEEN YET. That being said, the name at the top of their list to replace Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spiderman is… PATRICK FUGIT.

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You may recognize Patrick from SPUN, WRISTCUTTERS and his breakout performance in ALMOST FAMOUS. My personal thoughts? Fugit looks like Peter Parker to me.


I also managed to find out that if Fugit doesn’t work out, the Spiderman producers ARE EVEN WILLING TO GO YOUNGER. Who is the name on that list? MICHAEL ANGARANO

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Michael actually played a superhero in SKY HIGH and was most recently seen FORBIDDEN KINGDOM. Michael even auditioned for the postponed Justice League film.

You know that Fugit and Angarano played the same character in ALMOST FAMOUS? Angarano played the younger version of William in ALMOST FAMOUS while Fugit played the older version.

So what do guys think?



Ken

[Desert Dweller]

Ken,
What did you think of the last SP movie? I haven't seen it yet and was wondering.
I liked 2 a lot, much more than 1 actually. Most people that I spoke with about 3 said that there was just too much going on in it. What did you think?

[Ragingblues]

I really enjoyed Spiderman 3. I can see that there was more going on in that film that the other two, in terms of plot development and just keeping up with the villains. However, I don't think it's a bad thing to speed up the pace a bit, as 1 & 2 had some lagging spots. I need to watch that one again soon, now that you mention it. We own it, so no problem there.

Unlike my opinion regarding KOTCS might suggest, I am pretty easy to please with movies. They don't all have to perfect for me to enjoy them on some level. There was just waayyy too much wrong with KOTCS for me to swallow.

I would definitely suggest checking out Spiderman 3 sometime, as it feels exactly like the other two to me.


Ken

[nickhorror]

Here's the thing; almost every time there is a massive movie announced there are massive "scoops." Now some people think that these scoops are actually purposefully released by the studios to get a quick fan reaction. From what I've heard, this is probably the more likely case--as opposed to this being something to take to the bank.

Here is an official statement from Sony posted at Comingsoon.net:

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45450

So there you go. Sony isn't looking to replace Toby--yet.

Now I am a huge Spider-fan. But I think that it's time. When I saw all the press for SM3, I was really disappointed with how unenthusiastic all the returning cast seemed. Don't get me wrong, Church and Grace and Howard were all stoked and happy. But Maguire, Dunst, and Franco were very dull. I mean they were cliche bored when they talked about coming back for a sequel. It could possibly be because they opened the movie at Cannes, then in Japan, and all across Europe before they came to the US, so by the time it came around, they'd been asked the same questions dozens and dozens of times. But still, they're actors--act excited!!

As for the movie itself: it fell very short of the greatness that was the second film. But, much like KOTCS, if you go into it expecting a fun movie with lots of entertainment, then you won't be disappointed.

[Ragingblues]

May 28, 2008 19:33:39 GMT -5 nickhorror said:

Here's the thing; almost every time there is a massive movie announced there are massive "scoops." Now some people think that these scoops are actually purposefully released by the studios to get a quick fan reaction. From what I've heard, this is probably the more likely case--as opposed to this being something to take to the bank.

Here is an official statement from Sony posted at Comingsoon.net:

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45450

So there you go. Sony isn't looking to replace Toby--yet.

Now I am a huge Spider-fan. But I think that it's time. When I saw all the press for SM3, I was really disappointed with how unenthusiastic all the returning cast seemed. Don't get me wrong, Church and Grace and Howard were all stoked and happy. But Maguire, Dunst, and Franco were very dull. I mean they were cliche bored when they talked about coming back for a sequel. It could possibly be because they opened the movie at Cannes, then in Japan, and all across Europe before they came to the US, so by the time it came around, they'd been asked the same questions dozens and dozens of times. But still, they're actors--act excited!!

As for the movie itself: it fell very short of the greatness that was the second film. But, much like KOTCS, if you go into it expecting a fun movie with lots of entertainment, then you won't be disappointed.

I totally disagree with the comparison to KOTCS. Spiderman 3 still looked and felt like the other two Spidey films, and had all the principle figures in place. KOTCS looked and felt like a totally different movie from almost every perspective.... which is the main problem I have with it. This was not the case at all with Spiderman 3.

Also, if you'll notice... the title of the thread is news & rumors, not just news. Sometimes the speculation can be fun this far out from a release.


Ken

[Ragingblues]

Sam Raimi Talks Spider-Man

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45727


ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! talked to "Spider-Man" franchise director Sam Raimi this week and got his thoughts on making more sequels.

"James Vanderbilt is writing the script and I'm excited to read it. I think it's going to be done in a few months," Raimi told us, adding, "I'm hoping it's as great as our discussions were about it and I'm hoping it feels right for me because I love Spider-Man. I'm hoping I'm well rested enough to embrace it and I'm hoping Sony wants me to do it. If all of those things come together, I would love to do it. There are a lot of unknowns about the future."

And how does he feel about re-casting key players if needed? "I'd hate to re-cast anybody in the future, I can't imagine that."


Ken

[pitfallharry]

Yeah, but Spidey 3 wasn't shot 19 years later either. So of course it's still going to look like they other two. In fact all three films look like they were shot back to back. Sam did a fantastic job of making all three films seem like one giant movie.


I don't think it's realistic to believe that GL and SS would totally ignore all of the advances in film technology over the past 19 years for the new film. They did keep it "old school" for the majority of the film. You can't expect them to NOT use some of the new tech because there would be no way to compete with stuff that's come out over the last 19 years. The kids today aren't the same as we were back when the original films came out. They expect certain things from action movies now. They are in my opinion quite spoiled.

I'm guessing that even now with the film the way it is some of the kids today still think KOTCS is to "Old fashioned".

Anyway, back to Spidey......

I enjoyed Spidey 3 but it suffered from the same problem the later Batman films did, to many villians. I think Venom should have been setup in this film and then saved for a sequel. I think Sandman was totally wasted as well.

I'm not sure if I want Toby back or if I want them to re-cast the role.

Honestly, I wish Marvel still owned the movie rights to characters like Spidey, X-Men, Ghost Rider , Daredevil and FF. I think all of these properties would be much better off in the hands of Marvel Studios. Iron Man was really good and the word on the street is that this new Hulk film is really good too.

I'd like to see Marvel get Spidey back and then re-boot the series and keep him in his teens like the new cartoon. I'd also like to see him interacting with the other heroes like Hulk or Iron Man.

One thing I didn't care for in the Spider-Man films was the Goblin's outfit........Norman's and Harry's.......Ock and the rest looked great. For some reason though Sam dropped the ball with the Goblin costumes.

[Ragingblues]

I thought all the costumes for the villains looked just fine. Spiderman 3 felt to me like one of the comics that had multiple villains in it. There's only so much you can do within the limits of one movie or comic book. They didn't have contracts to stretch the story lines into a 4th chapter, so closure was a must.

I think Sam did an excellent job of juggling the adult and kid interest with all three movies. They really have a mass appeal to them the way the Indy movies used to. I don't see 2 cents worth of anything in KOTCS that was done old school. So, if kids don't like it, it's because there is a 63+ year old man as the hero. The ironic thing is, kids do like it. It's everyone else that has been split by the efforts on Indy 4.


Ken

[alexp3000]

I have to agree with PH on the Green Goblin costumes.
Norman's goblin costume looked like a robot and nothing like the green goblin we new. Harry's goblin costume looked like some ninja and even less like the goblin(actually nothing like the goblin )............oh and i just realized that Norman's goblin helmet looks a lot like the crystal skulls from KOTCS ;D ;D

[pitfallharry]

Yeah, Norman looked like a reject from the Power Rangers show. Harry's was heavily influenced by the "extreme sport" crowd.......Reminded me of a souped up snow boarder.

The Goblin is Spidey's "Joker" and his costume is supposed to invoke "terror" not giggles. The Green Goblin is the personification of Norman's madness. They got the "character" part right but not the actual suit.

I happened to look threw a "Making of Spider-Man" book back when the first film came out and some of the original designs for the Goblin's outfit were perfect. Why he backed down and gave us that costume is beyond me.

I tip my hat off to Sam getting everything else right......


I still wish they would have included more of Spider-Man's trademark sense of humor in the movies too. Fans of the character like myself consider that one of Spidey's powers. He mouths off so much that it drives the bad guys crazy and actually throws them off guard. ;D

I enjoyed Spidey 3 for the most part. I could have done without all of the crying. Good lord, it seemed like every 5 minutes Peter was balling about something or one of the bad guys were. ;D

They should have just left that for the end. Harry's death was very well done and that scene deserved the tears.


Right now the best interpretation of Spidey you can watch is the new Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon on the CW network. It's a perfect blend of the old comics, new comics and movie series.

[Ragingblues]

Jun 6, 2008 17:42:22 GMT -5 @pitfallharry said:

Yeah, Norman looked like a reject from the Power Rangers show. Harry's was heavily influenced by the "extreme sport" crowd.......Reminded me of a souped up snow boarder.

The Goblin is Spidey's "Joker" and his costume is supposed to invoke "terror" not giggles. The Green Goblin is the personification of Norman's madness. They got the "character" part right but not the actual suit.

I happened to look threw a "Making of Spider-Man" book back when the first film came out and some of the original designs for the Goblin's outfit were perfect. Why he backed down and gave us that costume is beyond me.

I tip my hat off to Sam getting everything else right......


I still wish they would have included more of Spider-Man's trademark sense of humor in the movies too. Fans of the character like myself consider that one of Spidey's powers. He mouths off so much that it drives the bad guys crazy and actually throws them off guard. ;D

I enjoyed Spidey 3 for the most part. I could have done without all of the crying. Good lord, it seemed like every 5 minutes Peter was balling about something or one of the bad guys were. ;D

They should have just left that for the end. Harry's death was very well done and that scene deserved the tears.


Right now the best interpretation of Spidey you can watch is the new Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon on the CW network. It's a perfect blend of the old comics, new comics and movie series.

Do you see how your opinion of the Spiderman series cannot be swayed by comments from other like myself? Now you know how I feel about KOTCS.... except that I hated the entire thing.


Ken

[Ragingblues]

I would actually prefer a darker series in the vein of the new Batman franchise. However, I understand the need to market a superhero to kids as well these days, much more so than ever before.


Ken

[pitfallharry]

Who in here was trying to sway your opinion about KOTCS? Not me......

I wasn't aware anyone was trying to sway me when it came to the Spider-Man series? Spidey 3 had a few problems but I still enjoyed it and so did my kids.

KOTCS had a few problems but I had fun with it and I've seen it 3 times. I'm certainly not going around trying to force people to enjoy it nor do I feel the need to bring up the film in every conversation I have. What's the point other than to turn another thread into a pointless argument about Indy 4?

I really liked Batman Begins and I'm really looking forward to The Dark Knight. It's just a shame Ledger died. I think it's going to turn out that he made a heck of a Joker.

[Ragingblues]

Jun 6, 2008 20:31:54 GMT -5 @pitfallharry said:

Who in here was trying to sway your opinion about KOTCS? Not me......

I wasn't aware anyone was trying to sway me when it came to the Spider-Man series? Spidey 3 had a few problems but I still enjoyed it and so did my kids.

KOTCS had a few problems but I had fun with it and I've seen it 3 times. I'm certainly not going around trying to force people to enjoy it nor do I feel the need to bring up the film in every conversation I have. What's the point other than to turn another thread into a pointless argument about Indy 4?

That's precisely my point in regards to KOTCS. I would have made my original opinion known and just left it at that. But whenever you came back in a started complaining about all the people whining about the movie, or picking apart things I had said, then I was certainly going to respond. You did the same thing in the KOTCS movie thread that you did here, and about past movies like "Superman Returns", and others. You were even attempting to do the same thing with "Hancock", a movie that hasn't even come out yet. Just because you read what may or may not be a pirated version of the script, doesn't mean everyone else needs to hear your stern warnings not to see it before they even have a chance to. Your view of what it "might be" like is simply that and doesn't need to cloud other people's judgement before they even go see it.

You post your opinions as fact, not simply your opinion, and get very upset when people offer a differing point of view. Just because you're a big Spidey fan doesn't mean your view is the right one. Just because you didn't like all the decisions made in "Superman Returns" doesn't mean you get to be the final authority on how well those movies were made. The same is true with KOTCS. If others didn't like it, you don't need to take it personal and feel the need to quote and argue every point with them. Just accept that your view is simply that... your view.

I whole heartedly accept that not everyone sees things as I do, nor do I ever post my opinions as anything more than they are.
I could care less how many people share my opinion on anything, to be totally honest. I just think you had a very hard time reading tons of negative reviews about the movie, then coming in here and seeing similar remarks in a place where you assumed people were going to see only the best in the film and look past the bad.

Trust me, that was my intention going in. The more I watched, the less I was able to hold on to anything positive about it. Posting tons and tons of news links, rumors, and information about Indy 4 around here, I think you would have been hard pressed to find another person that was so upbeat about the possibility of it really being a fun Indy movie that honored the character. That's partly why I felt so betrayed at how completely different it was in almost every way possible, contrary to what we were promised it would be.

As far as continuing bringing KOTCS up in other threads or making references or comparisons to it around here..... well that's always going to happen. Good or bad, people are going to mention the movie whenever they feel the need to, myself included. This community is centrally based around the Indiana Jones character. We are going to continually compare and contrast things to all of the Indy movies, based on our individual opinions of them. There are no rules to say otherwise and nobody to tell us what we can or can't talk about. That was the sole reason for creating this place.... freedom to be ourselves and talk about whatever we choose. I have no time in my day for following idiotic rules about how or what I can post about on a forum of any kind, and I expect no less from anyone else.


Ken

[nickhorror]

The great thing about Spidey is that there are literally hundreds of stories to tell; some old, some new, some not yet known. I would hate to lose such a powerhouse of a character to straight to DVD titles because the producers and writers get carried away.

No, I think the way to go is to introduce a completly new villain. Call me crazy, but in order to save this character from having nipples on his costume, I think it is best for them NOT to try a classic foe. Everyone keeps talking about the Lizard, or the Vulture. Fine and dandy, but they are pretty weak characters on their own. I'd like to see a guy (like the Goblin) who goes nuts with his power; like Electro or Scorpion, but with an original twist.

I hated how in the last film they shoved down our throats every chance they got that Flint Marco wasn't really a bad guy. He was whiney and hardly used his power to the full extent (except at the end). How many times did they remind us that he was only doing his criminal actions for the sake of his daughter? Man, that isn't the Sandman. The Sandman is dumb muscle who Spidey used to knock around all the time...I mean Spidey beat him with a vacuum cleaner the first time they met. Flint Marco was never intended to be a sympathetic character.

So let's get a new villain who doesn't go whack-o and try to destroy the city. And how about setting it up so that there isn't this constant idea that in the bad guy's mind, he isn't doing anything wrong? That is getting a little old.

[alexp3000]

I totally agree with you. i want to see some really evil villain that has no good side to him/her just is plain bad. but is not just random crazy, they plan things out.

[nickhorror]

Let's face it, Spidey needs a Joker. Batsh :-Xt crazy, but a friggin geneius.

[Ragingblues]

Jun 8, 2008 0:25:44 GMT -5 nickhorror said:

The great thing about Spidey is that there are literally hundreds of stories to tell; some old, some new, some not yet known. I would hate to lose such a powerhouse of a character to straight to DVD titles because the producers and writers get carried away.

No, I think the way to go is to introduce a completly new villain. Call me crazy, but in order to save this character from having nipples on his costume, I think it is best for them NOT to try a classic foe. Everyone keeps talking about the Lizard, or the Vulture. Fine and dandy, but they are pretty weak characters on their own. I'd like to see a guy (like the Goblin) who goes nuts with his power; like Electro or Scorpion, but with an original twist.

I hated how in the last film they shoved down our throats every chance they got that Flint Marco wasn't really a bad guy. He was whiney and hardly used his power to the full extent (except at the end). How many times did they remind us that he was only doing his criminal actions for the sake of his daughter? Man, that isn't the Sandman. The Sandman is dumb muscle who Spidey used to knock around all the time...I mean Spidey beat him with a vacuum cleaner the first time they met. Flint Marco was never intended to be a sympathetic character.

So let's get a new villain who doesn't go whack-o and try to destroy the city. And how about setting it up so that there isn't this constant idea that in the bad guy's mind, he isn't doing anything wrong? That is getting a little old.

That all sounds good to me. I do think they will use the existing villains first though.... Lizard, Electro, Scorpion. But, if things continue to do well for the franchise, I can see them wanting to create a chaotic powerhouse villain, just to really shake things up.


Ken

[nickhorror]

Oh I know that they'll keep going to the comics for their inspiration. I have no problem with that. But I'm on the fence as to the whole "true to the character" purist thing.

I really liked the way Alvin Sargent wrote Doc Ock, and I liked the way Molina played him even more. The internal struggle with the character really made him stand out above every comic book villain ever. But I know some people out there were kind of ticked with how far they took the character away from his mad scientist roots of just wanting wealth and power and to hell with rules and authority. And I see their point as well.

I'm kind of sad that I've heard that they're in talks to make 4 and 5 back to back with a single story arc. I'm not sure that will work for this type of story. People don't like to wait around for months and months for answers. They will, but they don't want to. I remember with I saw PoC: DMC. I walked out of the theater angry that they didn't finish the story they were telling and by the time the third movie came out I had forgotten a lot of what was going on with each character. I fear that will happen if they proceed with their plans for Spidey 4 and 5.

But there is no use in worrying about a movie that doesn't even have a completed script yet, right? So I'm just going to hang back and read all the gossip and news and rumors until there is something official.

[Ragingblues]

Spider-Man 4 Targeted for May 2011

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=46190


The Los Angeles Times reports that "Spider-Man" franchise producer Laura Ziskin said the fourth installment is tentatively scheduled to hit theaters in May 2011.

Already scheduled for the month of May that year are Marvel's own The First Avenger: Captain America on the 6th and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II.

Ziskin added that the screenplay is not finished yet, but that she and Sony Pictures were hopeful Spider-Man 4 could be ready in three years' time.

Neither star Tobey Maguire nor director Sam Raimi is yet committed to work on the next installment, but Sony has paid Marvel to renew its rights.


Ken

[Ragingblues]

Raimi and Maguire Set for Spider-Man 4?

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48581


Back in May, Cinematical was the first to report that Sony Pictures might shoot Spider-Man 4 and Spider-Man 5 at the same time using James Vanderbilt's script that the site said spans two films.

Now, Deadline Hollywood Daily has added on that director Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire have apparently signed on the dotted line for Spider-Man 4, which the studio is targeting for a May 2011 release.

DHD adds that there's no deal for Kirsten Dunst to return as Mary Jane Watson yet, but the character will be featured and the studio would not recast her.

As for the baddie in the fourth picture, the site says that principal photography doesn't start until the fall of 2009 and that once we find out who the villain we'll know who is playing it. Naturally, speculation would put Dylan Baker's character Dr. Curt Connors/The Lizard at the head of the line, but who knows?

According to the site, "the studio is trying to figure out if it can feasibly shoot Spider-Man 4 and 5 at the same time because doing that is so cost effective and 'it wasn't so easy to get everybody back together.'"

DHD also says that Sony has hired two screenwriters to pen the new script for the Spidey spin-off Venom.

Is this all accurate? We'll have to wait and see if/when the studio starts making some announcements, which could be a while!


Other source link:

www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-sony-sets-sam-raimi-studio-may-shoot-4-and-5-at-same-time/



Ken

[Ragingblues]

Kirsten Dunst "in" for Spider-Man 4

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=49228


The recent revelation that Sony Pictures is looking to shoot Spider-Man 4 and Spider-Man 5 at the same time didn't reveal whether Kirsten Dunst would rejoin director Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire for the films.

Now, Dunst has told MTV that she'll be back as Mary Jane Watson:

"I'm in," said the actress matter of factly. However, when pressed to make the announcement official, Dunst quickly changed her tone, and rather cryptically added, "I'm not saying anything, I know there's rumors..."

The studio is targeting a May 2011 release for the fourth pic.


Ken

[Damned Dan]

I wouldn't mind seeing the entire cast replaced. Toby actually surprised me by doing a fine job with the character, but I feel he is getting a little old for the role and some new blood would be fun. I never thought Dunst was a convincing MJ and I believe it showed with the lack of chemistry between her and Toby. The action sequences with the first two films were impressive, but I feel it's going to be more of the same, just different villains. They really should take a break from the franchise and reinvent it for a new generation like they did with the Batman films. Go back to the comic book character of Peter Parker and have him create the web shooters, because that makes it a little more interesting when your heroe can run out of his weapon.

[Ragingblues]

Don't Expect Elizabeth Banks Back as Betty Brant

www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=7748


Would Elizabeth Banks return as Betty Brant in a fourth and/or fifth "Spider-Man" movie? It doesn't sound like it, as she tells CHUD:

"If it's that small, I probably won't do it. They don't need Betty Brant. It's purely, at this point - and I don't think they see it this way - it's kind of a favor at this point."


Ken

[Ragingblues]

Spider-Man 4 May be Headed for Michigan

www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=52501


The Oakland Press says that director Sam Raimi may be coming back to his home state, Michigan, to shoot scenes for Spider-Man 4. Here are excerpts from the article:

Raimi is slated to begin production on "Spider-Man 4" in 2010, in fact and, he said, envisions shooting some of that movie in Michigan.

"I'll be looking at Michigan for our second-unit photography on the new 'Spider-Man' film," he confirmed.

The extensive infrastructure needed to crank out megabudget productions like the three "Spider-Man" movies he already has made has, for the most part, kept him in Hollywood, Raimi pointed out.

"Producers are always looking at the bottom line, and if they can get the same looking stuff somewhere else cheaper, they're going to shoot there," Rumble said.

Such was the case with "Spider-Man 3."

"It was cheaper to shoot in Ohio because the streets we were shooting on had storefronts that looked a little bit more like New York than Detroit did," Raimi explained. "But if the incentives Michigan has now had been in place, we would have had the money to adapt a set in Detroit."


Ken