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Post by Kaplan on Jul 20, 2008 1:49:01 GMT -5
I've never really been interested in superheroes. Batman, on the other hand, has always interested me, mainly because he's NOT a superhero, but rather a guy in a batsuit with a LOT of money. I feel the same way. I really don't like most super heroes. I hate their stupid super powers. Batman on the other hand is just a crazy tormented vigilante with a ton of money. It's way more interesting. Plus, The Joker is the greatest comic villain of all time.
EVERYONE HERE NEEDS TO READ "THE KILLING JOKE"It's definitely the best Batman graphic novel. Heath Ledger studied "The Killing Joke" when preparing for his role as the joker. This graphic novel shows how the Joker became who he is. It really shows the Joker at his most demented. He shoots commissioner Gordon's daughter in the spine paralyzing her. He then takes pictures of her naked and bloody and forces Gordon to watch them while chained up in a cage like an animal. Crazy stuff, but great reading.
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Post by Mr. Fusion on Jul 21, 2008 21:38:42 GMT -5
The only Batman graphic novel I've read all the way through is "The Long Halloween." It has the Joker, Catwoman, the Mad Hatter (a few others I think), and the origin of Two-Face. It was one of the inspirations for Christopher Nolan to make "Batman Begins" and inevitably "The Dark Knight."
I also ordered Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns," which was what brought Batman back into the light... or in this case out in the dark. It was the first time in decades where Batman was taken seriously. I'm excited.
-Josh
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Post by Ragingblues on Jul 22, 2008 7:11:44 GMT -5
We saw it last night and thought it was really good! If you liked "Batman Begins", you should also enjoy "The Dark Knight"! They did not disappoint and kept the same look and tone of the previous movie (no brightly colored sets here). It's dark, gritty, and always riding the edge between good and bad.... the way it should be. Ken
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Post by bullwhip92 on Jul 23, 2008 14:54:03 GMT -5
I just got back from watching The Dark Knight. I will try to keep spoilers to a minimum, but I can't guarantee anything! First, I would say that it is the best comic-book movie I have EVER seen, including Iron Man. I think that Christian Bale portrayed Batman in a very human way, as a fallible human being. I LOVED Ledger's portrayal of Joker. It drives Nicholson's into the ground. Spoilers follow I also enjoyed the lack of the typical hollywood ending. Batman's experiencing the loss of Rachael and his coping with that loss made for a much more interesting picture, as did his coping with the "loss" of Gordon. This Batman was much more dark and gritty than any other I've seen, except maybe for Batman during the "Gotham War" of the comic series. I enjoyed that. I had to remind myself that I was watching a comic book movie. It certainly was NOT a superhero movie, as Kaplan said. Wayne is a billionaire with some sweet fighting moves and a lot of money. The science didn't get TOO over the top (the cell-phone radar thing was a little), and both villains and heroes were believable as human beings. There is just way too much to say about this movie and not enough time to say it!!!
It was a FANTASTIC movie, and I actually think it surpassed Batman Begins. I hope there's a sequel to this sequel, and I don't often say that.
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Post by indianadirk on Jul 23, 2008 17:31:57 GMT -5
Iam going to see it tommorow. I was always a big batman fan, but not of Nicholsons Joker, I've always foundit lacking. IAM very anticipated to see it!
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Post by Ragingblues on Jul 24, 2008 7:56:35 GMT -5
The Dark Knight Crushes $200 Million Record www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7524Warner Bros. Pictures' The Dark Knight broke another record on Tuesday becoming the fastest ever to cross the $200 million mark in five days! The previous record of eight days was held by three films - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, Spider-Man 2 and Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.
Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins follow-up added $20.87 million on Tuesday to push its massive total to $203.8 million. That puts it at #84 already on the all-time domestic blockbuster list after just five days.
Right now, the only number we have for international markets is $41.3 million but that will start going up significantly as the movie is opening in many countries Thursday and Friday as well as into August.
So let's recap - widest release (4,366 theaters), biggest midnight opening ($18.5M), biggest opening weekend ($158.4M), biggest July opener ($158.4M), biggest PG-13 rated opening ($158.4M), biggest single day ($67.2M), biggest opening day ($67.2M), biggest Friday ($67.2M), biggest Sunday ($43.6M), biggest IMAX opening ($6.3M) and fastest to $200M in five days ($203.8M).Ken
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Post by Connecticut Jones on Jul 24, 2008 14:00:08 GMT -5
y'know not to hop in here and derail the thread, but I was doing alot of thinking after having seen The Dark Knight, and read the various Discussions about a possible Replacement Joker. and everyone keeps talking about johnny Depp replacing Heath ledger as the joker and part of his role from that other movie ( can`t remember the name) personally.. I don`t think It's Depp that`ll do that joker justice. In my opinion it would be Michael keaton. yes thats right.. beetlejuice. There were many similarities between ledgers Joker and Beetlejuice, and in my opinion who better to keep the two going than Michael keaton? Anyone else Agree? CJ *EDIT* Found and Manipulated this picture of keaton As beetlejuice for a little.. photo Evidence
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Post by bullwhip92 on Jul 24, 2008 15:59:26 GMT -5
I think Keaton is too old. Sorry. Depp could do the Joker, though I don't know if he could keep the feeling of Ledger's Joker. I am not a Heath Ledger fan, but his Joker is simply the best I've ever seen or read. I did not like Nicholson's interpretation. It wasn't human enough. If they must bring the Joker back, I think that Depp is a good choice. There are others who could do it as well. I think it would be interesting to at least give Shia LeBeauf a chance
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Post by indianadirk on Jul 24, 2008 17:54:49 GMT -5
DEPP THE JOKER? You must be kidding, he couldn't even do Sparrow right the second time. Joseph Gordon Levitt looks like Ledger. But I think It doesn't matter who they choose. There really wasn't that much of special about it. I can certainly see another actor picking the part up and amaze us even more. I'ts been done with Batmans before and Nicholson too with this part.
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Post by Ramiel on Jul 24, 2008 20:53:26 GMT -5
DEPP THE JOKER? You must be kidding, he couldn't even do Sparrow right the second time. You know that Depp is one of the greatest actors alive, right? And I think you should have said "Third" time, the second time his character was just the same and he still have had some "space" in the film, it was the third one that killed that saga... Jack Sparrow was the movie, they focused on the boring love story of the secondary characters and they lost it... But he is too much a "big name" for a Nolan's movie, and I don't think they would show us again the Joker... Now I just need to find some time to go to see this movie...
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Post by Mr. Fusion on Jul 25, 2008 0:14:16 GMT -5
I've heard that Daniel Day-Lewis might pick up where Ledger left off. I think he's a little too old, like Keaton. Besides, I'm sure Michael Keaton wouldn't do it, since he played Batman TWICE!
I don't think there's any need for the Joker in "Batman 3," but if they do choose to use the character, I'm sure whoever they pick will work out fine... not Johnny Depp.
-Josh
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Post by alexp3000 on Jul 25, 2008 16:36:35 GMT -5
the question isn't "why so serious?" it's are you serious? i could never ever see Depp as the joker or Keaton! that would be the worst idea ever!!!!!!! i think they should stop here with the joker story IMO, but if they do go on they better fined a better joker than Depp or Keaton. Ledger's joker was just to good and i don't think he will be replaced successfully
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Post by Kaplan on Jul 26, 2008 0:34:58 GMT -5
It was a FANTASTIC movie, and I actually think it surpassed Batman Begins. I hope there's a sequel to this sequel, and I don't often say that. I agree. It completely surpasses the the original(s). It's one of those movies that I will buy the very day it comes out on DVD.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 26, 2008 1:31:33 GMT -5
It was a FANTASTIC movie, and I actually think it surpassed Batman Begins. I hope there's a sequel to this sequel, and I don't often say that. I agree. It completely surpasses the the original(s). It's one of those movies that I will buy the very day it comes out on DVD. I agree. It got back to the darker roots of what the character is supposed to be about. an unsanctioned urban legend of the night.
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Post by Ragingblues on Jul 27, 2008 12:25:27 GMT -5
I believe it is impossible and unfair to compare the actor's portrayal of a character in different visions/versions of a series. Besides this being a completely different take on the Batman world, the actor has very little to do with how their character is played in most cases anyway. Most of the credit or blame for such things falls on the director and producer, for their visions of how things should be.
The Tim Burton series of Batman was much lighter in nature, and aimed at a very broad audience. While I enjoyed them, having lots of dance music by Prince, and the general circus/carnival look that Burton is so fond of would not have been my vision. Of course, things got even more campy for the last two (after he left), but I don't believe for one second that the actors chosen for the roles caused that series to go down hill. The stories and direction lead them right to the edge and certain casting choices finally nudged them over. In the end, I believe the more serious nature (and massive success) of the Spiderman series started the Hollywood wheels to consider letting someone tell a darker Batman tale this time. I applaud this approach greatly and think it's the real reason for the huge success of certain hero type franchises.
I'm sure they will use The Joker again, as he is one of Batman's biggest enemies. Ledger's death, while certainly untimely, shouldn't be the reason to change the storyline for future movies involving a character older than the actor himself. I'm sure they'll find someone perfect for the role, when the time is right.
Ken
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Post by GCR on Jul 27, 2008 22:30:57 GMT -5
I just saw the movie this afternoon. I enjoyed it quite a bit, probably more than "Batman Begins" in a lot of ways, though there were a few elements of "BB" I liked better. Ledger did well in the role, and Bale was just as good this time out, if not better. I will say I found it VERY refreshing to see a film that was not overladen with CGI and still relied heavily on traditional special effects. The CGI they did use was very well done, as I could not visually pinpoint any particular scenes that were clearly computer generated or enhanced (with the exception of obvious things like the "cell-phone sonar") Overall a very enjoyable film! I'll be looking forward to the third installment of this Batman saga.
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Post by Mr. Fusion on Jul 29, 2008 0:05:10 GMT -5
I saw it Sunday for the third time. It was still great. I can't wait for the DVD. I actually ordered the Blu-ray Batman Begins, mainly for the IMAX trailer (which is the first 6min of The Dark Knight).
-Josh
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Post by New Yorker Jones on Jul 29, 2008 12:02:17 GMT -5
We saw it on Sat. and will see it again on IMAX soon. I can see Riddler or Penquin for #3. This is definitely something to buy on DVD when it comes out/
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Post by Ragingblues on Aug 5, 2008 18:53:12 GMT -5
The Dark Knight Reaches $400M in Record 18 Days www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47667Warner Bros. Pictures' juggernaut The Dark Knight added yet another record on Monday as it passed up the $400 million in just 18 days. The previous record was held by Shrek 2, which needed 43 days to reach the mark, followed by Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, which took 45 days.
The Dark Knight earned $6.28 million in 4,266 theaters on Monday, pushing the Christopher Nolan-directed Batman Begins follow-up to $400,038,494. The movie has climbed up to the 8th spot on the all-time domestic blockbuster list and will surpass Spider-Man ($403.7 million) on Tuesday for the 7th spot.
Internationally, the film has already earned $202.5 million while it has yet to open in some major markets. The worldwide total so far is $602.5 million.Ken
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Post by Indiana Sam on Aug 6, 2008 16:42:25 GMT -5
Man I just saw the movie today. Wow, this is one of the best movies i've ever seen.
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Post by Stefana Jones on Aug 6, 2008 23:58:39 GMT -5
Hmmm...Having someone who has portrayed Batman in the past, portray the Joker...hmmm ?
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Post by Indiana Sam on Aug 7, 2008 15:05:16 GMT -5
as usual having alot of time on my hands I just saw it again today. It only gets better
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Post by Mr. Fusion on Aug 11, 2008 0:20:41 GMT -5
It's definitely the best Batman graphic novel. I haven't really read that many Batman comics, but Killing Joke was rather good. I'm looking forward to reading Frank Miller's Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. I'm also thinking of ordering Batman Year One. Also a Miller novel. I really like Frank Miller's Sin City series, and my college professor said Dark Knight Returns changed his life. ;D I'm sure he wasn't completely serious. Unless it's that good. as usual having alot of time on my hands I just saw it again today. It only gets better Agreed. Being a man with too much time on his hands, I've seen it 4 times, and it only gets better. Has anyone here seen Batman: Gotham Knight? I got it today, and it's really cool. Plus the special features are awesome. -Josh
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Post by winstonwolf359 on Aug 11, 2008 4:53:48 GMT -5
I highly recommend Batman: Year One. Not only is it a great story with great art, but it served as an inspiration for much of what Nolan is doing with Batman now. There are several scenes in Batman Begins that were lifted directly out of Year One.
I finally got to see Dark Knight in IMAX this weekend. Mind blowing! Even though I loved the amazing size and clarity of the picture, I think I was even more impressed by the sound. The detail and clarity of the audio track was miles ahead of what I'd heard before. All of the dialog was crisp and clear, and the sound effects were (literally) stunning. Highly recommended!
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Post by Mr. Fusion on Aug 11, 2008 22:43:26 GMT -5
Even though I loved the amazing size and clarity of the picture, I think I was even more impressed by the sound. The detail and clarity of the audio track was miles ahead of what I'd heard before. All of the dialog was crisp and clear, and the sound effects were (literally) stunning. Highly recommended! I really loved the sound, too. The only thing that put me off was a lot of Gary Oldman's dialog was drowned out by the score. -Josh
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